Renowned hardware leaker All_The_Watts!! has published alleged benchmark results of AMD's upcoming performance-mainstream RDNA 3-based Radeon RX 7700 and Radeon RX 7800 graphics cards in 3DMark Time Spy. The performance numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, but for what it is worth, both products show performance in line with that of their would-be competitors.
|3DMark Time Spy Average ~ Maximum
|Radeon RX 7700*
|Radeon RX 7800*
|Radeon RX 6800 XT
|17098 ~ 24934
|Radeon RX 6800
|14503 ~ 20239
|Radeon RX 6700 XT
|11970 ~ 15087
|GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
|20437 ~ 25898
|GeForce RTX 4070
|16372 ~ 21065
|GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB
|12836 ~ 15000
If the numbers are to be believed, AMD's upcoming Radeon RX 7700 scores 15,465 points in 3DMark Time Spy, which puts it comfortably ahead of Nvidia's GeForce RTX 4060 Ti (which scores 12,836 on average, but achieves 15,000 on higher-end machines) and AMD's own Radeon RX 6700 XT (which hits 11,970 on average and can get to 15,087 in a high-performance PC).
As for AMD's alleged Radeon RX 7800, it scores 18,197 points on an unknown testbed. Assuming that we are dealing with a high-end machine, then the graphics card cannot even beat the Radeon RX 6800 (which scores 14,503 on average, but reaches 20,239 on a high-performance system).
Based on the latest rumors, AMD will use its Navi 32 graphics processor with up to 3840 stream processors (60 compute units) for both Radeon RX 7700 and Radeon RX 7800-series products. Of course, exact specifications of these products are unknown since they are expected to be released in late August and many things could change.
It should be kept in mind that even if we are dealing with performance numbers obtained on pre-production samples of AMD's Radeon RX 7700 and Radeon RX 7800 graphics cards, we do not know configurations of testbeds and we have no idea how well optimized AMD's current drivers for these GPUs are. That said, it is plausible that AMD's final versions of Radeon RX 7700 and Radeon RX 7800 will be faster than the current samples. We'll of course have to wait for our own testing of AMD's upcoming performance mainstream Radeon RX 7000-series graphics cards to find out if they'll earn spots on our best graphics card list.
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Improve FSR and Raytracing to the level of Nvidia, and I'll reconsider. For now AMD is just not interesting to me.Reply
I don't play any games that take advantage of ray tracing. So all I care about is rasterization performance.Reply
There is basically no difference between FSR 2 and DLSS 2 in terms of visual quality and performance uplift. However, FSR can work on more than AMD hardware which benefits everyone.PlaneInTheSky said:Improve FSR and Raytracing to the level of Nvidia, and I'll reconsider. For now AMD is just not interesting to me.
I won't say about FSR, but it's raytracing performance that hurt AMD sales so badly. Even if not very common, people don't want to buy a product that, when the need for RT comes, won't deliver like the competidor does. Unless AMD vastly improves its RT power, Nvidia will always be seen as superior.PlaneInTheSky said:Improve FSR and Raytracing to the level of Nvidia, and I'll reconsider. For now AMD is just not interesting to me.
When the need for RT comes... I've seen people doing this reasoning since 2018 and yet you still don't realise that when that far away time eventually comes, you'll likely have gone through 2 GPUs even if you don't upgrade every generation.salgado18 said:I won't say about FSR, but it's raytracing performance that hurt AMD sales so badly. Even if not very common, people don't want to buy a product that, when the need for RT comes, won't deliver like the competidor does. Unless AMD vastly improves its RT power, Nvidia will always be seen as superior.
I think the problem are the customers that buy a future promise that is years in the future, today.
Of course, the native performance in ray tracing is better on Nvidia GPUs, but good luck playing any RT game native.
By the time the next big game comes out, your shiny new GPU that felt like a beast yesterday will already start to feel insufficient (*cough* RTX 3080 *cough*).
Well, assuming thses scores are straight GPU, the 7700 is nearly double what my 3060 scores. Prices will be telling. Don't give a crap about RT yet, nothing I run supports it.Reply
With this stagnation gpu game AMD is playing with Nvidia, will AMD continue to give free advertisement for Nvidia when showing off it cpu delta gains?Reply
What did AMD smoke this gen? They are copying Nvidia strategy of bringing the same performance at overly priced lvls but without frame generation bs to market? I mean c'mon!! Who gives a *** about a 7800 if it's just another 6800XT??? These gpus are all DOA Unless that 7700 is coming out around $350 and the 7800 at max $450 AND there is a actual 7800XT coming next.Reply
Also, hose 3dMarks scores are off . Here are the actual scores and price for each card
6700XT - $250 - 12500 (used)
6800 - $350 - 15000 (used)
7700 - $400~$450 - 15500 (new)
6800XT - $400 - 17500 (used)
7800 - $450~$500 - 18000 (new)
I would not buy a 7800 for more than $450, specially when the RTX 3080 os also selling for $400. I don't care if its used, GPUs can last more than 10 years. These are the market prices for used cards right now, give me something new that can compete at this price level or gtfo with your DOA over expensive stuff. Not too long ago GtX 1060 came out at $300 beating the last gen $600, now they are giving us $600 that cant beat the last gen $300
why buy 7700/7800 when 6600 is all you need? and 6600 already extremely fast hahaReply
All the people complaining of the lack of RT... reminds me something like 15 years agoReply
oh yes ! it was the same BS about PhysX !
exactly the same : "yeah it's kinda useless for no but who knows !, i dont want to miss out on this new feature"
people even bought cheap entry level nvidia cards as physx accelerators.
and yet, nobody gives a damn about physx anymore. Havoc works for everyone and make one of your core work like 10%, big deal.
I am sure Nvidia has several more ideas of "revolutionnary" proprietary tech for the years to come. People forget...