Intel Allegedly Making Dual-Core 'Intel 300' Alder/Raptor Lake CPU

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Update - Aug. 9, 2023 - 4:54 p.m. ET - An earlier version of this article stated that the  chip's reported specs included a 3.6GHz base frequency; this has been updated to reflect the alleged specs actually mentioned a 3.9GHz base frequency.

Just when we thought dual-cores were dead, Intel is rumored to be bringing back the "obsolete" core configuration for another generation. A Tweet by leaker chi11eddog alleges Intel is developing a new 14th Gen entry-level dual-core chip that will feature one of Intel's three hybrid CPU architectures found in its Best CPUs, Alder Lake, Raptor Lake, or Raptor Lake Refresh.

According to chi11eddog, this new chip will be the spiritual successor of the Pentium Gold G7400. Thanks to Intel's removal of the Celeron and Pentium sub-brands altogether, the new chip will be dubbed the "Intel 300," similar to other entry-level chips (like the "Intel Processor N200").

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  • gondor
    Twitter post you cited literally says "base frequency 3.9GHz", not 3.6 GHz.

    Aaron Klutz does it again ... :rolleyes:
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  • usertests
    The Twitter leaker did not reveal any specifications for the iGPU, but for obvious reasons, we expect this CPU to sport one of Intel's lower-end configurations — like its UHD 730 Graphics unit.
    It will probably include UHD Graphics 710 (16 EUs), like the Pentium Gold G7400 does.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/pentium-gold-g7400.c2574
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  • punkncat
    I am not sure that a two core processor has a place in the consumer market aside from very targeted applications. I would not wish to run 2C in Windows at this point, 4C struggle enough.

    Got to sell off anything they can though, so there is that....
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  • Eximo
    I could use another tiny PC based on newer silicon, though I have had my eye on some AMD solutions of late. At least ASUS is going to absorb the Intel NUC division.

    But, yeah, dual cores usually not good enough for general purpose these days.
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  • bit_user
    Deleted member 2824971 said:
    Well, chips and dies haven't been the same for a long time, but this really sounds like one of those selective destruction thingies that Intel is infamous for: take a U-die with two P-cores and kill some E's (or not) to create something 'new'.
    I don't see any evidence Intel made U-series (i.e. 2P + 8E) dies with Raptor Cove. Plus, with their 96 EU iGPU, the U-series dies aren't exactly tiny.

    What I think they're doing is probably using half of 4 P-core die, or something like that. Maybe a further cut-down i3-13100, except I think that's using Golden Cove cores, rather than Raptor Cove (i.e. it's just a rebadged Gen 12 die).

    Key things to look for will be the iGPU size and the PCIe revision.
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  • bit_user
    Eximo said:
    But, yeah, dual cores usually not good enough for general purpose these days.
    Then most of their N-series is non-viable for general purpose? The smallest one has 2 E-cores. Most have 4 E-cores (which should run a bit faster than 2 P-cores / 4 threads, depending on clock speed).
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    I was going to say it would be great for POS machines and other such very low demand computers, but at 46w power consumption this thing is destined for the dumpster.
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  • usertests
    bit_user said:
    What I think they're doing is probably using half of 4 P-core die, or something like that. Maybe a further cut-down i3-13100, except I think that's using Golden Cove cores, rather than Raptor Cove (i.e. it's just a rebadged Gen 12 die).
    Pretty sure this is based on the ol' 6P + 0E Alder Lake die. With 2/3 of the cores disabled.
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  • rluker5
    I picked up a G6900 to get an ITX setup before Raptor lake came out and played around with it a bit. The 2 threads weren't enough but 4 threads even on older CPUs is fine for light use. 2 threads hitched on the desktop and web. Pausing things to catch up.
    But I also plugged it in to my Asus Prime Z690-p and everything worked. The ram even could take the same timings. But SSD performance was garbage. Better than SATA, but totally bottlenecked Optane and NVME.
    Eventually I sold it for what I bought it for: $40.
    If this 2c4t were $60 it would be worth it for entry level. Otherwise better to go for 4c8t.

    12100f selling for $88.40 at Newegg right now. That seems like a reasonable price.
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  • bit_user
    usertests said:
    Pretty sure this is based on the ol' 6P + 0E Alder Lake die. With 2/3 of the cores disabled.
    Yes, I think the 6 MB of L3 cache aligns with it being the Alder Lake die, since the 6-core i5-12600 has 18 MB and the 4-core i3-12300 has 12 MB. It seems that die has a 3 MB slice of L3 per core, which gets enabled/disabled with the core.
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