Microsoft: You Can't Get Around Windows 11 Requirements

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Microsoft is sticking to its guns with Windows 11’s minimum requirements, with Microsoft Program Manager Aria Carley saying in a recent AMA webcast that your PC won’t even allow itself to download the upgrade if it doesn’t meet Microsoft’s standards.

Windows 11’s minimum requirements have caused a bit of an uproar ever since they were first announced alongside the OS earlier this June. Key points of concern were the need for TPM 2.0, an up-to-now obscure security feature that’s so niche that most standalone motherboards automatically disable it in their BIOS, as well as a strict CPU compatibility list. 

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  • bigdragon
    These new requirements are honestly great if they're used to secure the OS and user data. That niche hardware is actually quite powerful and useful.

    However, the same hardware can be abused for DRM and heavy-handed content restrictions on users. I don't see signs of that happening yet, but there's always the risk.
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  • caseym54
    bigdragon said:
    However, the same hardware can be abused for DRM and heavy-handed content restrictions on users. I don't see signs of that happening yet, but there's always the risk.

    I bet it's the furthest thing from their minds.
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  • Blitz Hacker
    bigdragon said:
    These new requirements are honestly great if they're used to secure the OS and user date. That niche hardware is actually quite powerful and useful.

    However, the same hardware can be abused for DRM and heavy-handed content restrictions on users. I don't see signs of that happening yet, but there's always the risk.
    I mean I'm gonna post this here and see how it ages. My guess is Microsoft has found some serious security flaw that needs an OS overhaul to remedy, or They want to push some sort of protection for ransomware. I just hope they don't over step going on some unremoveable drm policy for applications etc. That stuff is horrible.
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  • uptonland
    It just means there will be a bunch of bootleg versions with assorted workarounds & hacks to allow installation a-la the hackintosh community and dark-site license verification/activation like that currently available for virtually all MS and other software. As usual, it'll only be legit installs that will be affected.
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  • tshinhar
    The new requirements are horrible.
    Why can't I install win 11 if I have a cpu that is clearly capable of running it (like Intel 6th gen)?
    I mean sure, if the requirements where just the tpm 2.0 and secure boot I could somewhat expect that argument, but what if I have them both but with a 6 gen cpu? (and before anyone says it is not possible because the cpu is too old I do have such a pc)
    It's just a scam to try and force people to buy new pcs
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  • drtweak
    <Mod Edit> I still have clients who are on 7 because they don't want to spend 15-25K a year on subscriptions but their 2013 standalone license works just fine but not past windows 7. I have another client who has mixed XP to 10 stuff XP stuff running one stupid little program and blocked from net) and the new version of the software that he paid for, bought a new server and SQL to run (Him and my boss are not fans of VM's) so he spend 4K on that plus who knows how much on the software only to put it on hold after training everyone after he found out it only works on 10 AFTER doing all of this! Now its like <Mod Edit>. might as well just replace all those PC's now vs refrub stuff he likes for 11.
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  • thestryker
    You don't actually need secure boot to be enabled according to the specs so that being a requirement is extremely arbitrary. TPM they haven't explained the use of, but okay I could see it no real problem here. Arbitrarily cutting off CPUs which support both secure boot and TPM 2.0 without an explanation is by far the worst part of this debacle. I have a 6900k system which supports secure boot and has a TPM 2.0, but for no disclosed reason this isn't good enough.
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  • DataMeister
    Are the 8th generation CPUs the first to not have the Spectre security flaw?
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  • Makaveli
    drtweak said:
    <Mod Edit> I still have clients who are on 7 because they don't want to spend 15-25K a year on subscriptions but their 2013 standalone license works just fine but not past windows 7. I have another client who has mixed XP to 10 stuff XP stuff running one stupid little program and blocked from net) and the new version of the software that he paid for, bought a new server and SQL to run (Him and my boss are not fans of VM's) so he spend 4K on that plus who knows how much on the software only to put it on hold after training everyone after he found out it only works on 10 AFTER doing all of this! Now its like <Mod Edit>. might as well just replace all those PC's now vs refrub stuff he likes for 11.

    Lack of due diligence there. Sounds like managers and higher ups doing this instead of actual technical people.

    thestryker said:
    You don't actually need secure boot to be enabled according to the specs so that being a requirement is extremely arbitrary. TPM they haven't explained the use of, but okay I could see it no real problem here. Arbitrarily cutting off CPUs which support both secure boot and TPM 2.0 without an explanation is by far the worst part of this debacle. I have a 6900k system which supports secure boot and has a TPM 2.0, but for no disclosed reason this isn't good enough.

    I find this interesting and maybe it was the build I was using. But I couldn't load bulid 22000.51 in a VM without secure boot being on install would always fail. Maybe that has been changed in the newer builds.
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  • Johnpombrio
    I still think that MS will relent and offer Win 11 without Secure Boot and the TPM requirement. They will create a new "Windows 11 Secure!" version and require some vulnerable corporate clients to adhere to a more secure environment. To have this level of security for the ordinary user is kind of pointless.
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