Miss The HEDT Glory Days? Build a 96-core 12-Channel DDR5 Beast with AMD EPYC

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AMD no longer ships its Ryzen Threadripper CPUs for high-end desktops and positions its Ryzen Threadripper Pro for workstations. But now that single-socket motherboards for AMD's 4th Generation EPYC 'Genoa' processors are available, you may no longer want to settle with 64-core Threadripper Pro but opt for a monstrous system with 96 cores and up to 12 channels of DDR5 memory.

Recently ASRock Rack introduced several single-socket SP5 motherboards for AMD's EPYC 9004-series processors (via HardwareLuxx.de), including the Deep Micro-ATX GenoaD8UD-2T/X550 and GenoaD24QM3-2L2T/BCM motherboards that are formally aimed at servers, but which can be used to build an ultimate battle station with a 96-core CPU and loads of memory assuming that you can afford the CPU and find an appropriate chassis.

Since the ASRock GenoaD8UD-2T/X550 and the GenoaD24QM3-2L2T/BCM are indeed server motherboards, they support everything one comes to expect from a server, including eight or 24 slots for DDR5 memory modules, four PCIe 5.0 x16 slots with CXL 1.1 on top, two M.2-2280 slots for SSDs with a PCIe 4.0 x4 interface, multiple MCIO connectors supporting PCIe 5.0 or SATA connectivity, two or four 10GbE ports (controlled by the Intel X550 or the Broadcom BCM57416 chip), one GbE connector for management, and the Aspeed AST2600 BMC.

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Meanwhile, the motherboards do not have common desktops and workstation features, including high-speed USB4 or Thunderbolt 3/4 ports, audio connectors (and appropriate controllers), and conventional SATA connectors on the motherboard.

Building a workstation featuring the GenoaD8UD-2T/X550 will be pretty tricky as a performance-demanding enthusiast will need to procure an M.2-to-PCIe x16 adapter card to take advantage of the latest SSDs featuring a PCIe 5.0 interface, a proper cooling system for AMD's EPYC processor in LGA 6096 packaging, and so forth. Also, remember that EPYCs do not overclock (96-core monsters also do not feature high clocks), and they are supposed to work with DDR5-4800 memory, which may not be a massive problem as the platforms have eight or 12 memory channels that provide plenty of bandwidth.

Building a powerful workstation based on AMD's 96-core EPYC is expensive and peculiar. However, the reward is, of course, loads of cores and memory, and if you need to run workloads that can scale to 96 cores, it might be worth the money and trouble.

Anton Shilov
Anton Shilov
Freelance News Writer

Anton Shilov is a Freelance News Writer at Tom’s Hardware US. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

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  • emike09
    I do miss the HEDT days. Still rocking X299 with an i9-10920X @ 4.8GHz all-core. For me though, it's less about the core count and more about the PCI-e lanes, quad-channel memory, 8 DIMM slots, an overclockable CPU, and near-Xeon stability. My Tuf X299 Mk1 board has been a beast and runs my 64GB kit of DDR4-3600 CL16 at DDR4-4000, CL16 without sweating.

    My dreams for the next HEDT platform would be similar, but right now, I care more about frequency than core count. I game, run the full Adobe suite, do heavy encoding, run a few Hyper-V VMs and an NVR, all on one system. Since I game a lot, frequency is important, and all other applications can benefit from that. I don't need 64 or 96 slower cores if applications aren't going to use those cores.

    Having 16-24 cores that can run 5.2+GHz stable all-core (none of those efficiency cores), non-stop, would be awesome. With the 5 NVMe drives I run (don't forget at least 4 SATA ports for HDD storage), dual 3090 GPUs, USB and audio expansion boards, capture card, I need more PCI-e lanes than Intel's puny 20 lanes. What a joke - 16+4 lanes. I know PCI-e v5 has double the bandwidth of v4 and running a GPU at x8 on v5 is totally fine, but I run my systems for 6-7 years before upgrading, and that doesn't leave much room for future upgrades or other expansion cards. I'm also not in a rush to move to 128GB RAM yet, 64GB of higher-bandwidth memory is fine for now.

    Bring back enthusiast HEDT! Give us those lanes and memory bandwidth! Give us high-frequency CPU options as well as high core-count options! The way Intel has been failing, I'm likely to move to AMD, even though they aren't king in gaming, and I personally don't find AMD as stable as Intel.

    One rig to rule them all, and in the darkness, bind them.
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  • TechieTwo
    If I were to build a 96 core PC I'd be able to download my e-mail Spam in record time. ;)
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  • drajitsh
    emike09 said:
    I do miss the HEDT days. Still rocking X299 with an i9-10920X @ 4.8GHz all-core. For me though, it's less about the core count and more about the PCI-e lanes, quad-channel memory, 8 DIMM slots, an overclockable CPU, and near-Xeon stability. My Tuf X299 Mk1 board has been a beast and runs my 64GB kit of DDR4-3600 CL16 at DDR4-4000, CL16 without sweating.

    My dreams for the next HEDT platform would be similar, but right now, I care more about frequency than core count. I game, run the full Adobe suite, do heavy encoding, run a few Hyper-V VMs and an NVR, all on one system. Since I game a lot, frequency is important, and all other applications can benefit from that. I don't need 64 or 96 slower cores if applications aren't going to use those cores.

    Having 16-24 cores that can run 5.2+GHz stable all-core (none of those efficiency cores), non-stop, would be awesome. With the 5 NVMe drives I run (don't forget at least 4 SATA ports for HDD storage), dual 3090 GPUs, USB and audio expansion boards, capture card, I need more PCI-e lanes than Intel's puny 20 lanes. What a joke - 16+4 lanes. I know PCI-e v5 has double the bandwidth of v4 and running a GPU at x8 on v5 is totally fine, but I run my systems for 6-7 years before upgrading, and that doesn't leave much room for future upgrades or other expansion cards. I'm also not in a rush to move to 128GB RAM yet, 64GB of higher-bandwidth memory is fine for now.

    Bring back enthusiast HEDT! Give us those lanes and memory bandwidth! Give us high-frequency CPU options as well as high core-count options! The way Intel has been failing, I'm likely to move to AMD, even though they aren't king in gaming, and I personally don't find AMD as stable as Intel.

    One rig to rule them all, and in the darkness, bind them.
    That's one sweet system. Perhaps you can post a review
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  • rafradek
    emike09 said:
    I do miss the HEDT days. Still rocking X299 with an i9-10920X @ 4.8GHz all-core. For me though, it's less about the core count and more about the PCI-e lanes, quad-channel memory, 8 DIMM slots, an overclockable CPU, and near-Xeon stability. My Tuf X299 Mk1 board has been a beast and runs my 64GB kit of DDR4-3600 CL16 at DDR4-4000, CL16 without sweating.

    My dreams for the next HEDT platform would be similar, but right now, I care more about frequency than core count. I game, run the full Adobe suite, do heavy encoding, run a few Hyper-V VMs and an NVR, all on one system. Since I game a lot, frequency is important, and all other applications can benefit from that. I don't need 64 or 96 slower cores if applications aren't going to use those cores.

    Having 16-24 cores that can run 5.2+GHz stable all-core (none of those efficiency cores), non-stop, would be awesome. With the 5 NVMe drives I run (don't forget at least 4 SATA ports for HDD storage), dual 3090 GPUs, USB and audio expansion boards, capture card, I need more PCI-e lanes than Intel's puny 20 lanes. What a joke - 16+4 lanes. I know PCI-e v5 has double the bandwidth of v4 and running a GPU at x8 on v5 is totally fine, but I run my systems for 6-7 years before upgrading, and that doesn't leave much room for future upgrades or other expansion cards. I'm also not in a rush to move to 128GB RAM yet, 64GB of higher-bandwidth memory is fine for now.

    Bring back enthusiast HEDT! Give us those lanes and memory bandwidth! Give us high-frequency CPU options as well as high core-count options! The way Intel has been failing, I'm likely to move to AMD, even though they aren't king in gaming, and I personally don't find AMD as stable as Intel.

    One rig to rule them all, and in the darkness, bind them.
    Even the newest rtx 4000 does not support pcie 5.0, keep that in mind
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  • thestryker
    I miss HEDT being a real thing, but AMD put an axe through it with the TR 3000 series processors. Intel couldn't really compete and AMD didn't care about anyone who needed memory bandwidth/pcie lanes unless they also needed core count. Prices ballooned and clocks couldn't match desktop so HEDT effectively ceased to exist. I still hope there is enough of a market for Intel to bring it back, but with the way both companies are pushing desktop products to the edge of efficiency I'm not holding my breath.

    rafradek said:
    Even the newest rtx 4000 does not support pcie 5.0, keep that in mind

    This is the inherent problem with the extra bandwidth in newer pcie revisions. Your addin cards have to support it and/or your board has to properly support bifurcation or your benefit is zero.
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