Nvidia Reportedly Cancels RTX 4090 Ti, Plans 512-bit Bus Next-Gen Flagship

GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition
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It seems that gamers still hoping to get into the RTX 40-series bandwagon will have to be content with the RTX 4090 GPU as the halo product of this generation. That's according to the typically thrustworthy leaker Kopite7kimi, who reported via Twitter that internal Nvidia plans to launch a refreshed flagship — let's call it the RTX 4090 Ti — have been canceled.

The rumor comes as the one-year anniversary of the RTX 4090's announcement (originally in September 2022) is fast approaching. Through recent years, Nvidia has been building out its product stack with mid-generation refreshes that not only add the "Ti" moniker, but also offer performance step-ups to better round-out the company's lineup against AMD's comparable competition. Nvidia has already launched some Ti models (namely the RTX 4060 Ti and the RTX 4070 Ti), but that strategy doesn't seem to be happening on the upper ladders of Nvidia's product stack anymore.

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  • InvalidError
    Nvidia going: "Oh crap, we nerfed memory bus widths silly in the 4000-series, we've got to go back up for our pricey GPU lineup to make sense, not be bandwidth-starved and have options for fitting memory!"

    To be at least a little fair, GDDR6 cost about $12/GB back when the RTX4000 series was being finalized. Now that cost is down to $3-4/GB, there is no excuse for being so stingy with next-gen memory load-out.
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  • Elusive Ruse
    So bandwidth matters after all?
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  • hotaru251
    InvalidError said:
    we've got to go back up for our pricey GPU lineup to make sense, not be bandwidth-starved and have options for fitting memory!"
    if you dont think nvidia'd not rise prices becasue of those changes...

    they'd price em higher and say "well the higher bus & more memory cost more"

    back to $2000 halo product prolly.
    Elusive Ruse said:
    So bandwidth matters after all?
    they know it does.

    for the 4060 ti they even stated it was a downgrade vs 3060 ti in most stuff but showed real gains in dlss 3 situations (which is true but again its only like 1% of stuff support it...)

    likely just want ppl to pay more for the higher tiers
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  • tamalero
    InvalidError said:
    Nvidia going: "Oh crap, we nerfed memory bus widths silly in the 4000-series, we've got to go back up for our pricey GPU lineup to make sense, not be bandwidth-starved and have options for fitting memory!"

    To be at least a little fair, GDDR6 cost about $12/GB back when the RTX4000 series was being finalized. Now that cost is down to $3-4/GB, there is no excuse for being so stingy with next-gen memory load-out.
    They probably have tons in inventory that they have to sell at a price point to do not make loses.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    Elusive Ruse said:
    So bandwidth matters after all?
    Bandwidth & Capacity have always matter.

    nVIDIA is just a giant CheapSkate about it.

    hotaru251 said:
    back to $2000 halo product prolly.
    Don't give them ideas!
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  • JarredWaltonGPU
    hotaru251 said:
    for the 4060 ti they even stated it was a downgrade vs 3060 ti in most stuff but showed real gains in dlss 3 situations (which is true but again its only like 1% of stuff support it...)
    No, Nvidia absolutely did not say it was a downgrade versus the 3060 Ti. At most it said, in briefings, that there might be edge cases where it could end up slightly slower. But overall, without DLSS 3, it's typically 10–15 percent faster than the 3060 Ti, at resolutions and settings that matter for either GPU. (Meaning, not 4K ultra.)

    What Nvidia did do was to heavily push the DLSS 3 Frame Generation narrative. Yes, uptake is relatively swift, especially compared to the original DLSS. But right now there are still only 39 released games that use DLSS 3. And yet Nvidia's marketing material for RTX 4060 Ti used 18 games for benchmarks, 11 of which were DLSS 3 enabled.
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  • InvalidError
    hotaru251 said:
    back to $2000 halo product prolly.
    When you pass the $1000 mark, you are usually dealing mostly with people who aren't going to care much if their GPU-for-the-0.1% costs $2000 or $3000.

    For the more cost-sensitive people, last I heard, Intel was aiming for roughly twice the performance per dollar with Battlemage. Even if Intel delivers only half of that, it'll still give AMD and Nvidia a serious run for their money at ~$350 for performance generally exceeding the 4070 (by the raw numbers, the A770 should be able to trade blows with the 4070Ti, lots of seemingly untapped potential left) backed by 16GB of VRAM on 256bits. Next year should be interesting unless Battlemage gets delayed into 2025 or poofs out of existence.
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  • digitalgriffin
    With 4090 sales dropping off a cliff I think NVIDIA is reading the tea leaves of what a failure an even higher priced version will be.
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  • JarredWaltonGPU
    InvalidError said:
    When you pass the $1000 mark, you are usually dealing mostly with people who aren't going to care much if their GPU-for-the-0.1% costs $2000 or $3000.

    For the more cost-sensitive people, last I heard, Intel was aiming for roughly twice the performance per dollar with Battlemage. Even if Intel delivers only half of that, it'll still give AMD and Nvidia a serious run for their money at ~$350 for performance generally exceeding the 4070 (by the raw numbers, the A770 should be able to trade blows with the 4070Ti, lots of seemingly untapped potential left) backed by 16GB of VRAM on 256bits. Next year should be interesting unless Battlemage gets delayed into 2025 or poofs out of existence.
    Do you mean a "performance doubled" B770? Because the A770 16GB is nowhere near the 4070 Ti in performance right now, and theoretical performance is ~20 teraflops versus ~40 teraflops. But yeah, if Intel can do Battlemage with 2x the A770 performance for $350, that would be a nice option. Right now, the 4070 Ti is about double the performance of the A770, at nearly double the price.
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  • RTX 4090, is proving to be one of the best purchases ever! And it gets even better by the day!
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