Why You Shouldn’t Buy Nvidia’s RTX 20-Series Graphics Cards (Yet)

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  • TJ Hooker
    Even with partners selling the RTX 2080 Ti, 2080, and 2070 cards at a suggested MSRP of $999, $799, and $499
    MSRP for non-Founders 2080 should be $699 not $799. Also listed incorrectly in the table of prices.
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  • Matt_550
    Forbes did a nice write up yesterday on why not to buy this generation at all. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/08/21/nvidia-rtx-20-graphics-cards-why-you-should-jump-off-the-hype-train/#f4b1aec3f8e3

    PCGAMESN: Has a write up detailing that the RTX 2080ti with Ray Tracing turned on can't even hit 60fps at 1080p with maxed settings.

    https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-hands-on
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  • mac_angel
    Battlefield 5 and the new Lara Croft game is a great push into the main stream. I can't remember if they are using NVidia's RTX APIs, or M$'s Ray Tracing API. That can make a big difference for future compatibility. NVidia and AMD really need to cut down on proprietary add ons, it just hurts the end user. PhysX and a dedicated PhysX card, I believe, is still a great idea. Same with other items such as Hair Works. And it would definitely help with NVidia's oversupply issue of the 10 series cards. But if they had opened it up to AMD, it would have become more main stream, covering more games. That could mean more GPU sales, including lower end cards for dedicated PhysX, Hair Works, etc.
    The lack of benchmarks is rather surprising. I watched the NVidia release on Facebook, and I caught right away that any comparisons that were used were only talking about Ray Tracing. I also noticed a couple of 'hick ups' in the games they demoed, it wasn't as smooth as they were claiming. That could easily be just a matter of their hardware set up for the big screen, etc. But, again, since there are no benchmarks released, especially from Tom'sHardware, and now this article to suggest not buying right away, I definitely don't see the need to upgrade my two 1080ti's in SLI.
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  • mac_angel
    I'm also willing to bet TomsHardware has at least one each of these cards, and have benchmark results, but stuck behind an NDA until a later date, maybe the release date.
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  • DookieDraws
    At those prices, they could have at least offered a few free games with these new GPUs, especially those games that offer Ray Tracing support. You know, make us feel like we're at least getting our moneys worth.
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  • JTWrenn
    Until I see normal DX12 (ie not ray tracing) benchmarks, none of this matters. If it is as big a jump as the 10 series was over the 9 it could be worth it. Either way an extra month to save $100 is a no brainer. Wait for the benchmarks.
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  • mastermansion.mmg
    I think they just adopted the pricing of the crypto-priced cards. Granted the price makes more sense considering the next generation tech and overall better performance the 2080ti is still way over priced but the others a more or less justified.
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  • kyotokid
    ..for those of us 3D CG art enthusiasts (OK, I know, we're a small niche) really not worth it. The most important feature for CG rendering is VRAM as that dictates how large a scene can be held in video memory for GPU rendering. Once it exceeds the available VRAM the process either crashes or dumps to the much slower CPU and System Memory (dependent on the render engine). For the extra cost having the same memory specs is a letdown although I had serious reservations about the claims and speculation on some sites of a 16 GB GeForce card being released. Nvidia learned a lesson back in the Maxwell days when they released the 5,000$ M6000 and 999$ Titan X, both with the same specs and performance (a year later they increased the memory of the M6000 to 24 GB while keeping the price the same).

    Furthermore, the "NVLink" bridges for the GeForce 20xx series seem nothing more than a souped up version SLI (and is even configured the same) with just faster transfer rates at nearly double the cost of the old SLI bridges. Sorry, no memory pooling/stacking as some had hoped and some tech sites touted would be the case.

    So as usual, if you need more VRAM for the job, you still have to shell out the big Zlotys for a Quadro (which with their more expensive version of NVLink do support memory pooling/stacking).

    Hoping my Megabucks lottery ticket comes through tonight, 96 GB of VRAM would be so sweet.
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  • Krazie_Ivan
    wasn't the partner 1070 msrp $380? ...not that one could be bought near that for the loooongest time.
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  • kyotokid
    ...I remember when the original MSRP for the 1070 was 379$. They were available for a short time again at 389$ in the Nvidia store when the mining craze began to tank but no longer as they are only taking pre-orders for the 20xx series now.

    Best I can find now are a few at Newegg for 399$ and the lowest price for the Ti version around 445$ - 450$
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