SK hynix says its 3D DRAM is half as expensive to produce — credits EUV chipmaking tools
SK hynix researcher mulls about the future of DRAM.
As with process technologies used to make logic chips, DRAM ICs need the usage of EUV lithography as transistors get smaller. Nowadays, Samsung and SK hynix use EUV for a few layers, which is expensive. To make EUV considerably cheaper, DRAM makers will have to adopt three-dimensional transistors and new DRAM structures, said a researcher from SK hynix at an industry conference, reports The Elec.
DRAM makers constantly strive to make their memory cells as small as possible and make their ICs as small as likely to be more competitive. To do so, they usually adopt new process technologies and, once or so, adopt new DRAM cell structures (once a decade or so). Today's DRAMs use 6F^2 (6F2) cell design, for example, which has been using FinFET three-dimensional transistors for over a decade; DRAM has been using plain transistors mainly because each new process node introduced new ways to shrink DRAM cells, which was all memory makers needed.
But preserving the 6F^2 cells and plain transistors with EUV does not seem as fruitful as once thought, according to SK hynix researcher Seo Jae Wook, who spoke at an industry event. He says that with vertical channel transistors (VCTs), or 3D DRAM, 'the process can be designed to reduce the cost of EUV processes by half.'
Meanwhile, The Elec says that SK hynix is gearing up to wed VCT and 4F^2 (4F2) cell design to make ultra-dense DRAMs (arguably, a risky but ambitious move). However, the memory maker has not confirmed such plans publicly. Therefore, when SK hynix starts to use EUV more extensively several years later, it will have experience both with VCTs (e.g., FinFET or even gate-all-around transistors) and with 4F^2 cell structures. The latter promises to reduce DRAM density by 30% compared to 6F^2 at the same node.
Fab tool maker Tokyo Electron anticipates that DRAMs using vertical channel transistors (VCTs) and a 4F^2 cell design will begin to appear around 2027 to 2028. The company also expects that to produce these VCT-based DRAMs, memory manufacturers will need to adopt new materials for capacitors and bitlines.
SK hynix and Samsung reportedly aim to apply 4F^2 cell design with their sub-10nm process technologies, though details are scarce. Samsung's first-generation sub-10nm DRAM fabrication process is still two generations away. Currently, Samsung's most advanced DRAM production node is its 5th Generation 10nm-class (12nm) technology, which it began to use in mid-2023. According to a slide leaked earlier this year, Samsung plans to develop two more 10nm-class fabrication processes before introducing the first-generation sub-10nm node, which is expected to debut in the decade's second half.
In addition to using EUV, 4F^2 cell design, and VCT transistors, Samsung plans to implement stacked DRAM process technology in the early 2030s, which will further boost the density of its memory devices over the next decade.
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Kondamin
Allas the packaging is twice as expensive so prices will have to go up by half.Alvar Miles Udell said:Half as expensive to make yet just as expensive on shelves quite likely.
Also it rained that’s an other 10% and that drought added an other 20% that strike no one expected and the issues in the Middle East making transport harder ends up making it only 2.19x as expensive as regular ram.
For most of the world, California and the EU should expect an other 30% carbon tax on them -
vijosef
Even in that scenario, society benefits, because the value of the memory does not depend on the cost of production. The buyer determines the value.Alvar Miles Udell said:Half as expensive to make yet just as expensive on shelves quite likely.
If production costs are halved, society regains half of the resources to be used for other purposes.
In reality, reducing costs makes it more profitable to produce higher volumes at lower prices, but this is a secondary benefit compared to the resources saved.
This is why socialism fails: socialists believe that value is equal to the cost of production, making it impossible to determine what to produce, in what quantities, and at what quality. There are countless uses for the same resource, and the cost remains the same regardless of how the resource is used. For example, using one barrel of oil to build a house or to burn a house has the same "value": it costs the same one barrel of oil. If it takes 1 kg of iron to make a hammer, each hammer has the same "value" whether you make one or a billion. Each hammer has the same cost, but in reality, the first hammer has high real value, because it's scarce, and everybody needs it, while a billion hammers are worthless.
Instead, in capitalism, people does everything possible to make the most valuable products, at the lower cost, to maximize profits. The more profits people makes, the richer and prosperous gts the society. If you make 1 hammer, you make a lot of money, but as you rise production, your profits drop, so you know where to stop, and society can use the remaining resources to maximize the profit making other products. -
Hooda Thunkett
Then it will suddenly double when AICoin decides on it's own to empty everyone's wallet to buy up the market for its plans for global domination...Kondamin said:Allas the packaging is twice as expensive so prices will have to go up by half.
Also it rained that’s an other 10% and that drought added an other 20% that strike no one expected and the issues in the Middle East making transport harder ends up making it only 2.19x as expensive as regular ram.
For most of the world, California and the EU should expect an other 30% carbon tax on them -
williamcll
The buyer never gets to decide the value. Society does not get the rest of the value because sk rarely lowers their prices.vijosef said:Even in that scenario, society benefits, because the value of the memory does not depend on the cost of production. The buyer determines the value.
If production costs are halved, society regains half of the resources to be used for other purposes.
In reality, reducing costs makes it more profitable to produce higher volumes at lower prices, but this is a secondary benefit compared to the resources saved. -
vijosef
The buyer is the one and only who decides the value. When you buy anything, you decide that his value is higher than his price.williamcll said:The buyer never gets to decide the value. Society does not get the rest of the value because sk rarely lowers their prices.
When you buy, you win the consumer surplus. It is a well established economic concept.
AND the value is in the product, so you get 100% of the value, because YOU get the product. -
williamcll
ftfyvijosef said:When you buy anything, the major purchaser (e.g. corporate buyers) decides that his value is higher than his price. It is a well established economic concept.
AND the value is in the product, so you get less than 100% of the value, because YOU are the product.