Better Than Radeon HD 7850 Performance At $150? We Want To Believe...
Averaging the benchmark results across the tests we ran today, we get the following aggregate results. AMD's Radeon HD 7850 serves as our 100% baseline.
At least from a performance standpoint, the Radeon R7 265 is impressive-looking. It's a little bit slower than Nvidia's GeForce GTX 660, which shows up as low as $190 on Newegg, and it's almost perfectly between the Radeon R7 260X and R9 270. That's pretty much where we'd expect it to be. So far so good.
But performance isn't AMD's problem. The company has a number of compelling solutions in its portfolio, fully capable of contending with competition from Nvidia, despite their age. Shoot, the GPU at the heart of this new card was launched two years ago! Pricing and availability are what we're worried about.
At the $150 AMD is promising, its Radeon R7 265 offers impressive value. You would have had to pay $250 for these frame rates when the Radeon HD 7850 surfaced, and that was a good deal back in the day. What's not to like, right?
To begin, the Radeon R7 265 won't be available until the end of this month, according to AMD. The company also claimed the Radeon R7 250X would be available earlier this week, and we're still waiting. It introduced us to a $110 Radeon R7 260 back in December, and of the two examples for sale, the cheapest is $125. The Radeon R9 270 launched in November of last year at $180, and now sits in the $230 range. The Radeon R9 280X, which AMD pitched to us at $300, is now a $500 card. Don't even get us started on the R9 290 and 290X.
In short, you'll have to pardon our skepticism that Radeon R7 265 will show up on time and at the price point AMD is claiming. We've seen fingers pointed at gun-shy add-in board partners, performance-thirsty cryptocurrency miners, price-gouging retailers, and foundries unable to keep up with supply. But at the end of the day, we're left wondering why AMD is setting prices if it can't control what you pay for its hardware? After piling praise onto the Radeon R9 280X at $300 and 290X at $550, it's our credibility on the line now, and we've been burnt too many times to give you guidance on a card you can't buy yet.
Let's assume for a second that the Radeon R7 265 does show up at $150 in February. At that price, it would dominate the sub-$200 segment. It'd make the GeForce GTX 660 much less appealing at $190. And it'd make the Radeon R7 260X look overpriced at ~$140. AMD knows this, and at least has a few models of the 260X marked down to $120 already, with the MSRP officially lowered to that price point today. That'd be a welcome bit of good news for gamers on a budget. As I mentioned, the 265's performance level used to cost $250 a couple of years ago.
But our little hypothetical situation is a snapshot of the market today. There are going to be additional cards launched into the same general vicinity before the Radeon R7 265 is even slated to go on sale. We can't yet say how that'll play out, but just knowing the landscape will change before you can buy R7 265 makes our thought experiment almost completely pointless.
I'm happy to see great 1080p performance pushed even further down under $200. If AMD does end up delivering the powerful Radeon R7 265 at $150 by the end of February, next month's Best Gaming Graphics Cards For The Money column should be an interesting one. Radeon R7 260X cards already selling for $120 shake things up as well. If you want something a little faster than the 260X, though, wait a couple of weeks and see how the sub-$200 space looks leading into March.
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I think the pricing issue is a moot point.If There's an Nvidia card at $190, an equally-performing (or slightly slower) car will be sold for $180 making a good profit, not at $150 to kill Nvidia.Card manufacturer won't benefit from Nvidia being pushed out of the market.Reply
Compelling card, but sad that a price hike on the 270 had to force it. So seems useless now.Reply
A 25% increase on the R9 270 was, essentially, a betrayal of consumer trust by AMD. I was totally excited to get in at the $180 price point, but now I'm waiting for Nvidia's offerings in that neighborhood to see if they can offer anything as compelling as the 270 was a couple months ago when it was still at its original price.Reply
War on the high end segment over.Now Jihad style attack on mid end.Reply
Wow, If it beats the 7850, I wonder how it stacks up against my overclocked 6850. I have two in crossfire but being limited to 1GB vram can be a hindrance. When I bought my original 6850, it was only $150 and my second was $100. I wonder what AMD has for $250 that could smoke my current setup / aka be a good single card upgrade.Reply
i am not impressed at all, if it was under 100w then yes.Reply
12670915 said:Wow, If it beats the 7850, I wonder how it stacks up against my overclocked 6850. I have two in crossfire but being limited to 1GB vram can be a hindrance. When I bought my original 6850, it was only $150 and my second was $100. I wonder what AMD has for $250 that could smoke my current setup / aka be a good single card upgrade.
All these price hikes are really becoming an issue. This card is launching at the same price I paid for my 7950 ~5 months ago.Reply
And what does using more than 100W at full load has to do with this card? First we have someone complaining about not having enough " additional power pins " than someone compains about more than 100W usage on a "desktop" GPU. You are lame.Onto the pricing problem, i should not have to remind you that the prices in most of the world ( you know everywhere out of north america ) haven't followed the same trends as here . the 290 never went bozo up to 650$ in Europe ( if you use the exchange rate in position before december when the price was set ) . I would like to read more about who is really "jacking" up the prices . This card needs to be 150$, not 180$ of course , else it would be m00t .Reply
so you are saying that R7 265 is best GPU in this price range?Reply