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HP Bringing Back Windows 7 'By Popular Demand'

By - Source: via BusinessInsider | B 65 comments

Bringing seven back.

Microsoft reimagined the desktop with Windows 8, and despite the arrival of Windows 8.1, a lot of people don't like the new Windows. If you count yourself among those who can't stand Windows 8, don't worry, apparently HP has your back. The company is giving the people what they want. HP's U.S. website now carries the message, "Back by popular demand. Customize a new HP PC with Windows 7 and save up to $150 instantly." Clicking for more information leads you to a page with all of HP's Windows 7 machines. This list is currently only five computers long and includes the Pavilion 500-205t desktop, the Envy 700-215xt desktop, the Pavilion 15t-n200 notebook, the Envy 15t-j100 notebook, and the Envy Phoenix 810-135qe desktop.

HP isn't doing anything wrong; manufacturers are still allowed to ship PCs with Windows 7. Microsoft stopped companies shipping Windows Vista machines after October 2011, and companies haven't been allowed to ship computers with Windows XP installed for over three years. (October 22, 2010 was the official date according to Microsoft's Windows lifecycle pages.) Redmond hasn't yet determined a date for the end of sales for computers with Windows 7 pre-installed. 

While HP is well within its rights to keep selling Windows 7 machines, it's worth noting that the selection of Win7 computers it's offering is very small, which is going to push users towards Windows 8 anyway. Still, with its touch-optimized interface, Windows 8 is totally different from Windows 7, and many find it hard to adjust to Microsoft's newest iteration of its operating system. Those people can turn to a very small corner for help.

According to IDC, PC shipments took a 5.6 percent dive in the fourth quarter of 2013. With only 82.2 million units sold during Q4, unit shipments for the whole year declined 10 percent from 2012, a record drop. IDC says commercial purchases helped prevent a larger decline while the consumer side remained weak. Though a mixed reaction to Windows 8 cannot shoulder all the blame for the declining PC market (there are other factors, including the rapidly expanding and changing mobile market), people do shy away from the new and different. Microsoft has made steps towards easing users' discomfort with Windows 8.1, implementing changes based on feedback received after the launch of Windows 8, but the fact that HP's running this campaign at all shows Redmond still has a ways to go with Windows 8.

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    red77star , January 21, 2014 11:01 AM
    No, you cannot make Windows 8.1 to look and feel like Windows 7. SSD does not run any faster under Windows 8 than Windows 7 infact my x25-M cannot be trimmed under Windows 8 (Intel doesn't support it, but i can trim it under Windows 7). Of course it is not the case for every drive. I compared Windows 7 to Windows 8...not a single performance improvement. People should stop writing bullshit...
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    Dax corrin , January 21, 2014 10:26 AM
    If I want t touch screen, I'll get a tablet... I like my desktop the way it is, and I'll avoid Win8.x as long as I can. Maybe I'm an old dog that doesn't want to learn a new trick. and Hakesterman, it's "moot point" not "mute point"
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    zloginet , January 21, 2014 12:39 PM
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    this is stupid just because consumers are to lazy to learn something new or accept change. windows 7 doesn't support trim for SCSI devices like PCI express solid state drives, it doesnt optimize for SSD drives like windows 8, it shuts down and starts up slower than windows 8 especially with mechanical drives, windows 8 utilizes multicore processors better especially with AMD. there are tons of benefits and improvements if you dont like the UI change it with 3rd party applications or you can not use the Metro interface at all but the benefits out weigh the cons. sticking with older OS's causes stagnation just like keeping XP for close to 15 years, working in enterprise I have seen this effect first hand. I remember companies using windows XP with SSD's and then wondering why their second gen SSD's are failing after a year or two of use. Duh no trim support for garbage collection! my point is going backwards is never good thing especially when its only justified because of a UI thats not that difficult to learn.
    The way wrote that up worries me. You work in "Enterprise"? I can't even finish replying. Forget it.
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    Dax corrin , January 21, 2014 10:26 AM
    If I want t touch screen, I'll get a tablet... I like my desktop the way it is, and I'll avoid Win8.x as long as I can. Maybe I'm an old dog that doesn't want to learn a new trick. and Hakesterman, it's "moot point" not "mute point"
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    Lee-m , January 21, 2014 10:29 AM
    Bring it back ? its still here, it never went away.

    What they choose to sell is their choice.
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    red77star , January 21, 2014 11:01 AM
    No, you cannot make Windows 8.1 to look and feel like Windows 7. SSD does not run any faster under Windows 8 than Windows 7 infact my x25-M cannot be trimmed under Windows 8 (Intel doesn't support it, but i can trim it under Windows 7). Of course it is not the case for every drive. I compared Windows 7 to Windows 8...not a single performance improvement. People should stop writing bullshit...
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    therealduckofdeath , January 21, 2014 11:11 AM
    I just wish more comment systems would incorporate block features like that otherwise horrible Facebook comment system. Then you could block liars like red77star with the click of a button and never, ever, ever have to read his utter nonsense again. :) 
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    bustapr , January 21, 2014 11:21 AM
    I think this is a good move. More choice the better. Im looking into getting a new laptop for college and I just prefer less hassle there is with Win7 machines on a laptop. I much less prefer messing with 3rd party apps to change UIs. But thats just my personal preference. If they have a Win7 laptop with a new APU, then I probably go with HP this time.
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    DjEaZy , January 21, 2014 12:15 PM
    ... a good sign, where Windows 9 needs to go...
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    deadmeow , January 21, 2014 12:35 PM
    Newer is not always better. Windows ME, Windows Vista, Windows 8. We can only cross our fingers for Windows 9, but at least Windows 7 is good to 2020.
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    zloginet , January 21, 2014 12:39 PM
    Quote:
    this is stupid just because consumers are to lazy to learn something new or accept change. windows 7 doesn't support trim for SCSI devices like PCI express solid state drives, it doesnt optimize for SSD drives like windows 8, it shuts down and starts up slower than windows 8 especially with mechanical drives, windows 8 utilizes multicore processors better especially with AMD. there are tons of benefits and improvements if you dont like the UI change it with 3rd party applications or you can not use the Metro interface at all but the benefits out weigh the cons. sticking with older OS's causes stagnation just like keeping XP for close to 15 years, working in enterprise I have seen this effect first hand. I remember companies using windows XP with SSD's and then wondering why their second gen SSD's are failing after a year or two of use. Duh no trim support for garbage collection! my point is going backwards is never good thing especially when its only justified because of a UI thats not that difficult to learn.
    The way wrote that up worries me. You work in "Enterprise"? I can't even finish replying. Forget it.
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    zloginet , January 21, 2014 12:40 PM
    you*
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    FFH , January 21, 2014 12:44 PM
    I think HP or dell also did this when Vista was released. They offered XP laptops and desktops. It's a good option for those that don't want to build their own computer.
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    RaDiKaL_ , January 21, 2014 12:58 PM
    Good to see a company listening to their customers, between Win 7 and Win 8 there's practically no performance gaining at all (it was like 2% according to a review from tom's) so in the end it falls down to personal taste, in my case for a desktop I prefer the style of Win7, and for touch devices Android and iOS feel much better than microsoft offer.
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    tomc100 , January 21, 2014 1:44 PM
    Windows 8 is an abomination and the idiot or idiots who designed it should be fired. There is not a single company or business that is using that retarded OS. Those morons at M$ wanted to push that stupid Metro UI to sell apps and get people use to that layout for their xbox console. It's not efficient nor appropriate for businesses and only a stupid fk would think so.
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    reng2014 , January 21, 2014 1:45 PM
    Small selection, yes, but they do cover all the bases: 1) entry-level desktop; 2) solid mid-range desktop; 3) entry-level laptop; 4) solid mid-range laptop; 5) pretty respectable gaming rig. It should satisfy most buyers looking for a Windows 7 machine.
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    memadmax , January 21, 2014 2:13 PM
    It's official: Win8 has fallen as low(or lower) than Vista.They did the same thing with Vista lol
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