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Benchmark Results: Star Trek Online

Wall-Sized 3D Gaming With Nvidia 3D Vision
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Epic space battles in wall-sized 3D are so impressive that this is a crowd-favorite game to sit back and watch. The sense of scale is simply breathtaking with the camera poised behind the saucer section of a mighty starship that fires volley after volley of phaser cannons toward a target far off in the distance. Floating space debris contributes to a sense of depth. 

We use the following settings for our tests: 1280x720 (native projector resolution), recommended quality, and 4x MSAA.

Game Experience using 3D Vision:

The 3D Vision adviser tells us the following about Star trek Online compatibility: "Rating: Good, Some objects render at wrong depth, Go to Options/Video turn on advanced video settings, Anti-Aliasing=None, Shadows=low, Bloom Quality=Off."

Essentially, shadows don't render properly. But it turns out that space battles don't need shadows to look great. And if AA is enabled, some stuff renders in one eye and not the other (explosions and certain weapon effects are two examples), but turning AA off fixes this issue. On a positive note, the mouse cursor is shown for both eyes, which is an improvement over the iZ3D driver.

This is one of the titles where we noticed a lack of depth on the projector compared to other 3D solutions, such as the polarized 3D drivers or even 3D Vision on the Acer GD235Hz LCD monitor. The depth wheel could not correct the lack of depth, but extensive tweaking with convergence helps produce great results.

Comparing to the Polarized Dual-Projector Drivers:

Unfortunately, this is another game for which the TriDef driver fails to work on a dual-projector system. As it always seems to, the iZ3D driver works, but produces some shadow glitches, so the low setting is necessary. Once again, the mouse cursor can only be seen in one eye when using the iZ3D driver.

Star Trek Online 3D Stereo Performance:

This game favors the 3D Vision solution, delivering higher frame rates than the iZ3D driver provides on the GeForce GTX 260.

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    hemburger , August 2, 2010 6:06 AM
    I'd rather wall sized 1080p playback than wall sized 3D playback. = )
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    hemburger , August 2, 2010 6:06 AM
    I'd rather wall sized 1080p playback than wall sized 3D playback. = )
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    Lmeow , August 2, 2010 6:09 AM
    I would love to have a 3D system like this, unfortunately it's nCredibly expensive...
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    Tamz_msc , August 2, 2010 6:14 AM
    I don't care about 3D.
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    infodan , August 2, 2010 6:57 AM
    What about DLP 3D? the projector supports it, DLP-link glasses are cheaper and dont require a transmitter like the nvidia glasses.
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    TheStealthyOne , August 2, 2010 7:28 AM
    "The whole experiment consisted of about $2500 worth of hardware and software, NOT including the PC driving the displays."

    I cringed.
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    kolsky , August 2, 2010 8:07 AM
    I own a acer h5360 and I agree, it is awesome watching 3d movies on it. 1080p? Dont even notice pixellation at 115 inch screen. 720p is fine and at a great price. 1080p 3d projectors will be extremely expensive for average consumers.
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    proxy711 , August 2, 2010 8:18 AM
    kolsky 3d is extremely expensive for average consumers.


    Fixed.
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    Rickyw972 , August 2, 2010 8:41 AM
    Is this projector better than the Mitshibshi 73" 1080p dlp for $1100?
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    kolsky , August 2, 2010 8:56 AM
    Im sorry, but 3d is NOT expensive. The acer 5360 can be bought for as low as 580 and the nvidia vision glasses kit can be bought for as low as 150. That is under 1,000... less than the cost of a 3D TV.
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    DaFees , August 2, 2010 9:08 AM
    Interesting read, but ultimately all this 3D talk leaves me with a big question. I have a PS3 and if I upgrade my PC to a 3D vision enabled PC is there a projector (perhaps the one discussed in this article) that would allow me to enjoy the 3D from my PS3 and my PC? I understand if I would need a switch between devices or manually switch cables. I know NVIDIA is working on a 3DTV play tech that let's you use the glasses of 3D enabled HDTV to enjoy NVIDIA 3D Vision, but is there a similar option for projectors?
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    scrumworks , August 2, 2010 9:22 AM
    kolskyIm sorry, but 3d is NOT expensive. The acer 5360 can be bought for as low as 580 and the nvidia vision glasses kit can be bought for as low as 150. That is under 1,000... less than the cost of a 3D TV.


    ATI/AMD will make it a lot cheaper without proprietary hugely expensive crap like nvidia.

    http://www.digitalversus.com/3d-films-and-games-with-glasses-from-ati-before-christmas-article-1086.html
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    TheGreatGrapeApe , August 2, 2010 9:53 AM
    Saddest thing in the review: "and the software developers we've talked to have indicated that the dual-projector option is too fringe to justify development."

    D-bags once again focusing on their limitations rather than options.

    Glad I didn't waste my money on that 3D upgrade for PowerDVD or others until they get their act together to support both methods.

    It's obviously already possible as shown by JVC last year (see end of clip);
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbm0VoL845k&feature=channel_page
    but once again leave it to the small minded accountants running the companies to keep it held back.

    Nice look as always though Don. :sol: 

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    TheGreatGrapeApe , August 2, 2010 9:57 AM
    Quote:
    Im sorry, but 3d is NOT expensive. The acer 5360 can be bought for as low as 580 and the nvidia vision glasses kit can be bought for as low as 150. That is under 1,000... less than the cost of a 3D TV.


    That's for one viewer, and then it's X amount for each additional viewer to have shutter glasses, expensive if you have friends, cheap if you're a loner.

    Polarization is the way to go for a bunch of people.
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    Jerky_san , August 2, 2010 12:09 PM
    I actually have a setup like this but I used a optoma GT700 and did a little messing with drivers to get the nvidia glasses to see it.. I don't really see a whole lot of "3d" though I guess maybe my eyes don't work well with the system.. I got to say though having a 135' screen to watch movies on is fun..
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    hixbot , August 2, 2010 12:20 PM
    scrumworksATI/AMD will make it a lot cheaper without proprietary hugely expensive crap like nvidia. http://www.digitalversus.com/3d-fi [...] -1086.html

    Well Nvidia's 3DTV Play will offer the same thing. HDMI 1.4a compatibility, no need to buy the Nvidia Vision kit, works with glasses provided by the display etc.
    It's odd, that article you posted doesn't mention that.
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    allrock , August 2, 2010 12:20 PM
    Most Cinemas I have seem do not use 2 projecters to display 3D movies they use a single digital projecter that displays alternate frames, the Dolby system uses A spinning filter wheel betwean the projectors lamp and Imager, it alters the light up and down in frequency synced to the proper frame and passive RGB filter glasses allow only the corect eye to see the corect image (no special silver screan required because the light is not polerized ) RealD uses a switching circuler polarizer (called Z screan ) placed in front of the projecter and synced to the proper frame this system like all polerized systems requires a silver screan to mantain polarization of the image and is viewed with cicular polarized glasses (inexpensive) both systems use a single projecter and alternating frame sequence of the image projected, and passive glasses there are Active glasses systems as well but they are less comon.
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    Jerky_san , August 2, 2010 12:34 PM
    Rickyw972Is this projector better than the Mitshibshi 73" 1080p dlp for $1100?

    look up the gt700 its 720p but the nice thing about it is that its short throw. So you can put it in a 10x10 room and still get a really large picture..
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    hixbot , August 2, 2010 12:35 PM
    Lets not forget that HDMI 1.4a does not have a mandatory standard for 3d at 1080p60. The HDMI chips are just too slow to handle the bandwidth. It's limited to 1080p24, 1080i60, or 720p60. So 3d Bluray playback will be fine on HDMI, but 3d gaming will be very limited on HDMI.
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    faraz1010 , August 2, 2010 1:27 PM
    heads up for 3d vision..bt nVidia sucks for making it only geForce card compatible..
    ATI cards would have given lot bttr results
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    xsamitt , August 2, 2010 1:40 PM
    Not interested in this.Your mileage may vary.
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