i have a 3870 x2 and its still rocking the new games great!
1920 x 1200 resolutions run smoothly,
i just have to tone the antialaising to like 2x or off on a few games like re5

I love [b]ASI[b]'s products.

That not bad for a gaming laptop.Could play COD4 and TF2 on there all day.

There really needs to be an edit function.

Eurocom had some awesome performance but the power consumption is scary. You can't be away from an outlet for more than 45 minutes.

i like my desktop for gaming but when i have to go someplace and its a long trip i use this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6834152126
its got pretty decent battery life (3 hours) and it doesnt hurt the wallet that much anyway.

I'm an ASI partner, and I've been reselling these laptops since 2005. Most of their lineup are Brandless Compal (second largest OEM notebook supplier) notebooks. Not many score real high in the looks department, but the quality and durability is head and shoulders above the competition.

I'd like to see a review on an Alienware M17x with Dual 280's or Dual 4870's just to see if all the money wasted is fast or not.

Not bad, I wouldnt get a laptop for gaming. Just get a mobile gaming device like a psp or dsi. I would rather play with a regular laptop than spend on a crazy laptop when I can just buy a ps3 or even build another great PC for that insane price. Crysis, COD5, STALKER and Fallout arent meant to be played with Laptops anyway on their max settings. You can play these in low or medium settings which is fine but I would never expect the world with even these mobile beasts.

I suggest Ati drops whatever they have now, and start working on the mobility 5xxx series
Since the desktop versions already don't use a lot of power
but gives really good performance, they could totally rape Nvidia in a year

Mmm... chunky

I agree, if ATI had a mobility soultion for the 5xxx series that could be in a really nice position in the laptop market.

I agree, if ATI had a mobility soultion for the 5xxx series that could be in a really nice position in the laptop market.

If the battery won't last through a three hour flight from TYS to MSP, it's not a viable option for me.

I've that ASI aka ocz whitebook aka flextronics W840DI aka Alienware M17.
I've it with ati mobility 2x3870 crossfire. I can run crysis at 1900x1200 @30fps. yes it's fast enough. btw you don't have much better. the mobility 4850 is just 10-20% faster and it's much more expensive. and the GTX 280M is on pair with the 3870.
THAT NOTEBOOK CAN BE UPGRADED TO 2X4850 crossfire but of course ASI and Flextroncis sucks and they will not sell those cards. (2x4870 won't work because the second slot is not MXM-IV)

"is that buyers must be willing to either install their own Socket P mobile CPU, DDR3 memory, and hard drives or source their system through one of ASI's reseller partners."
CRAP! ALL LIES! I bought the barebone and build it myself it was MUCH MORE CHEAP.
I've 2 Gskill SSD's, an engineering sample of the intel QX3000 and some OEM 2x2gb ram. works perfectly.

ALSO BEWARE OF THE CRAPPY ATI DRIVERS FOR THE 3870! the latest available were released ONE YEAR AGO.

ASI doesn't make the notebook. It's just a distributor (the previous distributor was OCZ that left the contract because Flextronics and ATI were unable to provide drivers to the graphic cards as well as other issues). Who makes it it's Flextronics (which bought Arima, the notebook was still designed by Arima).
Alienware get's it's M17 directly from Flextronics and sells it to the public. (ofc because they have a their own design. but the hardware is EXACTLY the same.
With the difference that Aliware bios locks the overclock. which sucks since the notebook is capable of high overclocks. But with the Flextronics bios you can easily overclock and of course you can flash the M17 bios.

i still have a 3850 it still runs pretty strong (good enough for me to play the games i like) but with the 5xxx series i think it may be time to upgrade

I care less about performance on notebook drives.
But the Power efficiency, and battery life page tells me enough that this is not a notebook I'm looking for,or ever buy!
45 minutes under load???
I hope you understand after a year the battery will have 80% of it's capacity.
A year later it's only 66%.
That means after 2 years you'd only get 25 minutes of battery life out of this machine!

can't convince myself why i should use my notebook to play games - the real stuffs and not solitaire. i use mine for browsing, watching non-HD videos and work. more concerned about the heat generated by dedicated graphics chips. if i want to play games, i use my desktop.

Articles like this always have people coming on saying stupid shit like:
"I would never buy a laptop with this poor of battery life"
or "Why would anyone try to play anything but solitaire on a Laptop? I could build a Desktop for far less".

Well, congratulations, a DTR style laptop doesn't suit your needs. There's still a market filled with people who relocate often (e.g. Military), or need a powerful machine to take to customer sites (which will have a power outlet btw), or even would buy one because they wipe their ass with 100s and just wanted something to take a friend's houses so they could game together.