ECS' New H410 Thin Mini-ITX Motherboard Doesn't Need a Power Supply

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ECS H410H6-TI2 (Image credit: ECS)
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  • SonoraTechnical
    It needs 19v... It can't get that 19v from Mains power.. .Therefore, it needs a power supply... it's just in the form of an external brick (like a laptop). a powersupply by any other color is still a powersupply. :)
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  • drtweak
    Yeaaa ummm. It still needs a power supply. And there are dozens of boards and OEMs who do this exact thing so yea not new at all. LOL
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  • jakjawagon
    How would connected SATA devices be powered?
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  • bit_user
    jakjawagon said:
    How would connected SATA devices be powered?
    If you click the zoomed view (grey icon in the corner, with the 4 arrows), you can see a connector labelled SATA_PWR in the second row of connectors from the bottom edge.
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  • bit_user
    I was going to complain that this article is lacking pics of any sexy thin mini-ITX cases. However, I'm having trouble even finding any, so I guess that's fair.

    Still, some of the most un-PC looking cases I've seen are thin mini-ITX cases.
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  • bit_user
    drtweak said:
    Yeaaa ummm. It still needs a power supply. And there are dozens of boards and OEMs who do this exact thing so yea not new at all. LOL
    You're right, but the question I have is whether this is actually part of the thin mini-ITX spec.

    From what I can tell, it offers an internal and external option for power input, though both are 19 VDC.

    https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-specifications/thin-mini-itx-based-pc-system-design-guide-rev-1-2.pdf
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  • Olle P
    Is it expected that suitable cases come with built-in CPU coolers? Otherwise the low profile of the motherboard would be of little use, right?
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  • Chung Leong
    Isn't 19V DC what most LCD monitors need?
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  • w_barath
    SonoraTechnical said:
    a powersupply by any other color is still a powersupply. :)

    I think the author's point is that it doesn't require a standard ATX power supply.

    Most of us have 2-3 retired laptops that we can pilfer the 19V charger from. The main problem is the compatibility of the jack, and can be solved easily enough by chopping off the plug and soldering it directly to the mobo, or splicing on the appropriate plug.

    This isn't a mainstream product. It's basically for people who want to hide a PC in something slim, so simple mods like that will be well within the comfort zone of the target market.
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  • nofanneeded
    ECS' New H410 Thin Mini-ITX Motherboard Doesn't Need a Power Supply

    so an external power supply is not a power supply now ?
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