Watch The Intel CES 2021 Keynote Here
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Intel's CES 2021 presentation is today at 1 pm PT (4 pm ET), and you can watch the presentation here in the embedded video that will go live when the event starts. We'll follow up with further analysis of the company's announcements from the event, so stay tuned for more details.
Gregory Bryant, the Executive Vice President and General Manager of Intel’s Client Computing Group, will cover Intel's announcements at the show.
The common consensus is that Intel will unveil more details today about its Rocket Lake processors for the mainstream desktop as it seeks to regain the gaming performance crown from AMD's potent Ryzen 5000 series processors that have shaken up our Best CPU for Gaming recommendations and our CPU Benchmark Hierarchy.
We also hope to learn more about Intel's eight-core 45W H-Series Tiger Lake processors that are coming to market to fend off AMD's Ryzen Mobile processors. Intel is also poised to releasing more products based on the 10nm process, like the forthcoming Alder Lake-S processors that will bring a hybrid architecture to the desktop PC for the first time, and Intel still has yet to debut its first dedicated graphics card for gaming. Anything is possible; pull up a seat!
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usiname So 147 fps faked to show how "good" is RL, vs 148 real fps 10700kReply
RL won't beat even CL -
PCWarrior
But they didn't make a comparison against the 10700K. The comparison was between the i7 11700K and either the Ryzen 7 5800X or the 12-core Ryzen 5900X (it is not clear as the presenter mistakenly said 12-core Ryzen 7 - if the 12-core is correct then she should have said Ryzen 9. If the Ryzen 7 is correct then he should have said 8 core.).usiname said:So 147 fps faked to show how "good" is RL, vs 148 real fps 10700k
RL won't beat even CL -
usiname
Here you go, 5.2ghz both 11900k and 10900k, Just look at the cpu usage of 11900kPCWarrior said:But they didn't make a comparison against the 10700K. The comparison was between the i7 11700K and either the Ryzen 7 5800X or the 12-core Ryzen 5900X (it is not clear as the presenter mistakenly said 12-core Ryzen 7 - if the 12-core is correct then she should have said Ryzen 9. If the Ryzen 7 is correct then he should have said 8 core.).
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spongiemaster
Instead of trying to make us guess what you're thinking, why not just tell us?usiname said:Here you go, 5.2ghz both 11900k and 10900k, Just look at the cpu usage of 11900k
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In the 2nd game, despite the lower average fps, the Rocket Lake CPU is giving a better experience. Compare the frame lows.
10900k min - 18fps, 1%-22fps, 0.1%-22fps vs
11900k min - 30fps, 1%-32fps, 0.1%-32fps
It's unlikely people will tell the difference 63 and 68 fps, but everyone will notice when the frame rate tanks to 18fps using a 10900k vs a much more reasonable 30fps for the 11900k.
Considering how few game scale to 16 threads or beyond, it will be the significant exception where Rocket Lake loses to Comet Lake in gaming. The differences aren't going to be significant, but they should consistently be in favor of RL. -
TerryLaze
As he said, look at the CPU usage. While the 11900 has two less cores it still has much lower usage and about the same FPS.spongiemaster said:Instead of trying to make us guess what you're thinking, why not just tell us?
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spongiemaster
Except it doesn't. It does in one game, but not the other, so what is the conclusion we're supposed to be looking at? 11900k has more than twice the usage in the game below looking at the running graph. The temperatures look weird as well. Why is the 11900k at 56C while the 10900k is at 28C if as you say the 11900k is getting less stressed. Some of the 10900k cores are at 22C, that's 71F or room temperature. What cooling are they using to achieve that with a load on the CPU? Water cooling won't get temperatures that low.TerryLaze said:As he said, look at the CPU usage. While the 11900 has two less cores it still has much lower usage and about the same FPS.
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They sure are rubbing it in how they can make more than just 3 CPU skus.