Nuvia-based Snapdragon X Elite GPU benchmarks appear in database

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GPU performance numbers of Qualcomm's highly-anticipated Snapdragon X Elite processor in the Ashes of the Singularity benchmark have been published in the benchmark's database (via @BenchLeaks). While the results do not look bad for a pre-production mobile processor, they don't exactly generate excitement.

Apparently, Qualcomm's Adreno GPU in the Snapdragon X Elite X1E80100 processor only scores 1.300 points in Min_1080p preset level with an average framerate of 13.7 FPS in a 2880x1800 resolution in AOTS. Meanwhile, Qualcomm's Adreno GPU in the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 4 GPU scores 1,800 points in Min_1080p preset level with an average framerate of 19.7 FPS in 2560x1440 resolution. Of course, we are dealing with pre-production silicon and pre-production drivers (probably not optimized for AOTS), but the results somewhat contradict to the picture that Qualcomm demonstrated just a few months ago

The main selling point of Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite processors for laptops is going to be its Oryon general-purpose CPU cores developed by Nuvia, a company founded by former Apple engineers that Qualcomm acquired in 2021. However, graphics performance of the upcoming system-on-chip (SoC) will be equally important for some who decide to go with the new Windows-oriented Arm-based chip. 

Based on performance numbers that Qualcomm demonstrated back in October, the upcoming Snapdragon X Elite processors indeed feature a decent GPU that is better than the GPU in Apple's M2 and AMD's Ryzen 9 7940HS based on the Aztec Ruins and Wildlife Extreme benchmarks. Yet, at least based on these benchmarks, the Adreno GPU cannot really beat its predecessor in the AOTS benchmark. 

For now, we would refrain from drawing any conclusions about the GPU inside the Snapdragon X Elite X1E80100processor because we are dealing with pre-production silicon and software and because it is possible that this particular version of the SoC has a cut-down GPU.

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Anton Shilov
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • ThomasKinsley
    I'm wondering if the OS is also an issue. Does anyone know how polished Windows on ARM is for GPU stuff?
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  • ChrisGX
    Here's the problem. First, the benchmark is built for x86 Windows and is being executed using hardware and software virtualisation tricks on the ARM based X Elite. No one should expect a benchmark of this sort to run fast on the X Elite (even after optimisations). Second, there is no difference between the SD X Elite and the SD 8cx Gen 4 - that is just two different names for the same processor. The SD 8cx Gen 4 was just a best guess at what the new processor would be called and the guess was wrong. The varying reported results show that the data is unreliable.
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  • darkich
    How about you people do some BASIC RESEARCH?!
    You'd get a simple and obvious answer - FLOPS.
    The Elite X GPU is officially rated at 4,5TFLOPS.. and that is lower than even the Snapdragon Gen 3 GPU(4.7TFLOPS according to Nanoreview.com).

    Maybe the explanation is that the Elite dates more back than the latest smartphone chips which are developed in the prompt cadence, given the overdue and delayed development of the Oryon cores. So the GPU configuration is also dated compared to smartphone chips.
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  • Pierce2623
    darkich said:
    How about you people do some BASIC RESEARCH?!
    You'd get a simple and obvious answer - FLOPS.
    The Elite X GPU is officially rated at 4,5TFLOPS.. and that is lower than even the Snapdragon Gen 3 GPU(4.7TFLOPS according to Nanoreview.com).

    Maybe the explanation is that the Elite dates more back than the latest smartphone chips which are developed in the prompt cadence, given the overdue and delayed development of the Oryon cores. So the GPU configuration is also dated compared to smartphone chips.
    I’d imagine the two GPUs use the same architecture. 4.5TFlopsbis a very powerful iGPU. The Radeon 780m tops out at 4.3Tflops.
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  • Bullet Punch
    darkich said:
    How about you people do some BASIC RESEARCH?!
    You'd get a simple and obvious answer - FLOPS.
    The Elite X GPU is officially rated at 4,5TFLOPS.. and that is lower than even the Snapdragon Gen 3 GPU(4.7TFLOPS according to Nanoreview.com).

    Maybe the explanation is that the Elite dates more back than the latest smartphone chips which are developed in the prompt cadence, given the overdue and delayed development of the Oryon cores. So the GPU configuration is also dated compared to smartphone chips.
    And what even is nanoreviews source? They seem like an amateur website that just copies data off of review sites and youtube videos. How did they even calculate the 8gen3's tflops?
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  • darkich
    Pierce2623 said:
    I’d imagine the two GPUs use the same architecture. 4.5TFlopsbis a very powerful iGPU. The Radeon 780m tops out at 4.3Tflops.
    Pretty sure 780M is rated at 8TFLOPS
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  • darkich
    Bullet Punch said:
    And what even is nanoreviews source? They seem like an amateur website that just copies data off of review sites and youtube videos. How did they even calculate the 8gen3's tflops?
    Honestly, that is a valid question since some other sources put the Gen 3 at 3.5TFLOPS.
    Nanoreview is a serious site though, they are big and often cited source.

    Also, the Dimensity 9300 is rated at 3.9TFLOPS at the least per all other sources, and 6TFLOPS at nanoreview..
    Nanoreview is the only site that gives FLOPS for all GPU's actoss the industry. For example, the Radeon 780M is correctly rated at at 8TFLOPS so in that respect the X Elite results are perfectly in line.
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  • Bullet Punch
    darkich said:
    Honestly, that is a valid question since some other sources put the Gen 3 at 3.5TFLOPS.
    Nanoreview is a serious site though, they are big and often cited source.

    Also, the Dimensity 9300 is rated at 3.9TFLOPS at the least per all other sources, and 6TFLOPS at nanoreview..
    Nanoreview is the only site that gives FLOPS for all GPU's actoss the industry. For example, the Radeon 780M is correctly rated at at 8TFLOPS so in that respect the X Elite results are perfectly in line.
    Nanoreview is a pretty new site, only been up for like 3 years. Even anandtech who used to do extensive mobile soc reviews never gave a flopcount for any of them. Nanoreview has zero sources mentioned for anything. Why are they even cited by anybody? Probably by some casual tech sites.

    780m isnt hard to correctly rate when its provided by amd itself.
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  • dinizinfo
    Admin said:
    Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite SoC was tested in 'Ashes of the Singularity' and appeared in the benchmark database.

    Nuvia-based Snapdragon X Elite GPU benchmarks appear in database : Read more
    Should this just be deleted? This post should not exist as it's written rn. Reporting it.
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  • bit_user
    darkich said:
    Nanoreview is the only site that gives FLOPS for all GPU's actoss the industry.
    TechPowerUp maintains a specs database that I've found to be rather complete and accurate:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-780m.c4020
    Then, there are also wikipedia pages, like this one:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_unitsSadly, it lacks an entry for the 780M.
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