Nvidia RTX 40-series Super models revealed — 4070 Super coming Jan 17 at $599

Nvidia RTX 40-Series Super Models and CES 2024
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The Nvidia RTX 4070 Super, RTX 4070 Ti Super, and RTX 4080 Super officially broke cover today, months after the first leaks and rumors started circulating. To the surprise of virtually no one, the new GPUs offer a decent bump in performance over the existing non-Super counterparts, and will compete with the best graphics cards starting later this month.

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Jarred Walton is a senior editor at Tom's Hardware focusing on everything GPU. He has been working as a tech journalist since 2004, writing for AnandTech, Maximum PC, and PC Gamer. From the first S3 Virge '3D decelerators' to today's GPUs, Jarred keeps up with all the latest graphics trends and is the one to ask about game performance.

  • Iridar51
    Assuming 4070 Ti Super is 15% more powerful than 4070 Ti, and 4080 Super is 5% more powerful than 4080, 4080 Super would be about 12% ahead of 4070 Ti for a 25% higher price. Not the worst scaling I've seen, but not drool-inducing either.
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  • elforeign
    Iridar51 said:
    Assuming 4070 Ti Super is 15% more powerful than 4070 Ti, and 4080 Super is 5% more powerful than 4080, 4080 Super would be about 12% ahead of 4070 Ti for a 25% higher price. Not the worst scaling I've seen, but not drool-inducing either.
    Yes indeed, even at $999 the 4080 Super is still overpriced relative to performance scaling gen-on-gen. I would maintain that down the SUPER stack as well.

    Nvidia is too greedy, and AMD does not/cannot compete well enough to create meaningful price pressure on Nvidia, so here we are. I will give Nvidia a small compliment on the $200 price reduction.

    Looking forward to Intel's developments with Battlemage and further, but it may be years before we see a 3080-type moment again. Given supply chain issues and inflation/fab complexity, I would find $799 appropriate for a x80 class processor.
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  • Iridar51
    I'm in a tough spot with this lol. I'm shopping for a new card, and $1000 is about the height of my budget. Before I learned of Supers coming, I flopped between $800 4070 Ti and $1000 7900 XTX, and ultimately decided to go with 4070 Ti due to lower latency while using framegen.

    The 4070 Ti Super for the same price and better performance seems like a godsend. Now I just can't decide if I wanna spend more and get 4080 Super instead to go even further beyond, even if it would be less efficient in terms of money/performance.

    Guess I'll have to seem some benchmarks while vendors catch up - don't wanna go for Founder's Edition where applicable.
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  • AgentBirdnest
    Jarred - an error in your chart, I think? It shows 64MB L2 cache for the 4070 Ti Super, but Nvidia's slide says 48MB.

    I'm really looking forward to that card. I had my eye on the regular 4070 or Ti, but have been hesitating, because I want some room to upgrade to a 4K screen this/next year, and am worried those cards could age really quickly at that resolution. Glad I decided to hold off for a couple of months to see what Super brings, because the 4070 Ti Super looks like it would be perfect for me. : )
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  • Jagar123
    Iridar51 said:
    Before I learned of Supers coming, I flopped between $800 4070 Ti and $1000 7900 XTX, and ultimately decided to go with 4070 Ti due to lower latency while using framegen.
    I saw you comment on another thread that you didn't think AMD had a latency reducing tech when using frame gen. As far as I'm aware Anti Lag works with FSR3 frame gen. If I were you I'd do more investigating before I buy a $800+ dollar GPU.
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  • bigdragon
    These new Super cards look like a step in the right direction -- a small step. I'm glad Nvidia didn't create yet another elevated price tier. The 4070 Ti Super is the most interesting option to me...although it is set at nearly the same price I paid for a 3090 in late 2022.
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  • Iridar51
    Jagar123 said:
    I saw you comment on another thread that you didn't think AMD had a latency reducing tech when using frame gen. As far as I'm aware Anti Lag works with FSR3 frame gen. If I were you I'd do more investigating before I buy a $800+ dollar GPU.
    I did look into it. As I understand it, Anti Lag is an entirely software solution, and is inferior to Reflex, albeit it does have the advantage of working in all reasonably modern DirectX games.

    Also I just don't like FSR tech in general, in most respects it seems like a helter skelter attempt by AMD to catch up to trends set by nVidia, rather than trying to come up with something of their own.

    I'm not fanboying over nVidia, I have a lot of gripes with them actually, but I want the best and I'm fine with paying more to get it. Yes, I'm the average victim of capitalism.
    NeoMorpheus said:
    None of you are interested in buying AMD, no matter what they offer.
    Well, so far they seem to offer a lot of VRAM and slightly better raw rasterization performance at resolutions below 4k. Which is fine, just not something I'm personally interested in as a gamer, because I expect performance-taxing games to have at least some upscaling tech available, and maybe even framegen, and nVidia just wins that hands down.

    AMD might have shot itself in the foot by allowing nVidia cards to take advantage of AMD upscaling / framegen features, particularly when using a mod/patch that allows older RTX cards to combine DLSS upscaling and Reflex latency reduction with AMD framegen.

    It was a noble move for sure, but for some nVidia users it means they have fewer reasons for upgrading from their older RTX cards .

    The sad reality is that AMD are behind nVidia on the GPU market, not just in raw performance, but in technological presence as well.

    Have to give credit where it's due, AMD's 7800X3D looks great for gaming. Despite being an Intel user for over a decade, I'm considering switching to AMD CPU.
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  • vanadiel007
    I am very happy with my 7900XTX and do not regret getting it over the 4080. The XFX version I have is a 4 slot card with a very beefy and capable cooler, and a Z bracket to ensure proper support of the card.

    Honestly does everything I need it do to, and more. Should really look at AMD before deciding to go with Nvidia. Adrenalin software package is way ahead of the Nvidia offering.
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  • doughillman
    NeoMorpheus said:
    We know, people want price pressure on Ngreedia, so they can buy Ngreedia.

    None of you are interested in buying AMD, no matter what they offer.

    I honestly wish that AMD would just drop from PC gaming GPU's, just to see how much are all of you willing to pay for Ngreedias GPU's.

    Then again, we will all be forced to do that anyways, since all of their proprietary tech keeps taking away our options and instead of fighting them, we are demanding it (Starfield DLSS anyone?)


    Hahahah! "Ngreedia!" That's soooooo clever and funny! Are you a professional comedian? You certainly should be with a wit like that.

    Man. heheheh. Ngreedia. How do you come up with stuff like that? I haven't heard material of that level since like, the third grade playground.

    Kudos. Kudos.
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  • saunupe1911
    I'm having a real hard time understanding the point of these.

    It's seems like an excuse to make a minor modification in the manufacturing process to keep the particular plants going. It's like they are releasing these just because they can.
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