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Project CARS, Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Division
Project CARS clearly responds most readily to high clock rates and IPC throughput, as evidenced by the difference between Intel's Core i5-7600K at stock and overclocked settings. Incidentally, those two configurations land in first and second place.
AMD's six-core Ryzen 5 1600X even manages to beat the eight-core Ryzen 7 1700 thanks to its higher frequency.
We noticed that our Core i5-7600K performed a little better here than in previous reviews. Curious if the extra speed was attributable to Microsoft's Game Mode, we toggled the feature on and off, only to determine that the frame rates were similar either way.
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Rise of the Tomb Raider is also sensitive to IPC throughput and clock rate, which is why the Core i5s fare so well. Overclocking Core i5-7600K to 5 GHz only adds to Intel's dominance in this title.
Overclocking does help Ryzen 5 1600X quite a bit, too. Meanwhile, there's little benefit to disabling SMT. In fact, doing so causes a lot of ugly frame time spikes.
Tom Clancy's The Division has AMD's overclocked Ryzen 5 1600X going head to head against Intel's Core i5-7600K at 5 GHz. Impressive, right?
This game also serves as a cautionary tale against disabling SMT. The frame time spikes are horrible. To better illustrate, we break frame time into two charts: one with SMT on and another with SMT off. We left Ryzen 7 1700 in the second chart to show that it also experiences severe spikes that rival the FX-8370's poor performance in some cases.
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If you can reliably overclock any of the ryzen 5/7 to 4.0, why would you get the 1600x over the 1700? Comparing a 1600x at 4.0 to a 1700 at 3.0 and then concluding that it's a better CPU when the 1700 can overclock exactly the same seems pretty stupidReply
Well, good effort from AMD, at least.Reply
A little disappointing for the Ryzen 5's imo. You'd think with the reduced core count you'd get better frequencies (and OC'ing) than what you get with the Ryzen 7.Reply
I honestly don't see a reason why to get a Ryzen 5 at this point since the i5 is definitely better for gaming and the Ryzen 7 is better for workstation use. The price alone takes it out of its own market.
A CPU review with only gaming benchmarks? Tom's hardware really likes Intel's hardware.Reply
Try page 10 :P19547998 said:A CPU review with only gaming benchmarks? Tom's hardware really likes Intel's hardware.
31(!) Workstation benchmarks. Too less?
How about a real world test where you play a game and run a 1080p stream then compare performance? How about 1440p? How about broadening the scope of testing? Nah just ignore the strength of more cores and focus on single thread work and a few games.Reply
Haha, my bad.Reply
you say that the i5 7600k comes out on top at stock but just on the gaming benchmarks i make it 4-4 with 2 draws. I wouldnt say that it came out on top at all. I would say they are pretty evenly matched at the moment. Also apart from the odd couple from both sides their frame difference was less than 10, at over 100FPS i'd pay good money that no one would be able to distinguish a difference between either system.Reply
Great review Paul and Igor. Best review I have seen given its the only review with 2 intel cpu's in the price range of Ryzen 5. The RAM info is great which shows that Ryzen gains a real 9ns latency advantage using higher clocked RAM on the Ryzen 5. Given the Ryzen 7 has less cache per core I would expect that gain to be higher.Reply
An issue that does stick out here is high price of the overclocking solution. How does the 7600k fair with a stock intel heatsink compared to the 1600x wraith spiral best overclocks? I think Ryzen has a real price advantage given the cooler required for a reasonable overclock.
Also how does the 7600K compare in games while twitch streaming against the 1600X?
19548037 said:How about a real world test where you play a game and run a 1080p stream then compare performance? How about 1440p? How about broadening the scope of testing? Nah just ignore the strength of more cores and focus on single thread work and a few games.
Maybe that's your real-world test, but that isn't mine. And am I the only one that can see the workstation benchmarks on page 10? Everyone seems to be ignoring them and then complaining that they aren't there.