AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Review: Zen, Meet Vega
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Page 1:The Fusion Of Zen & Vega
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Page 2:The Raven Ridge Die
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Page 3:14nm+, Precision Boost 2 & Power Management
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Page 4:SoC Capabilities & Vega
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Page 5:Power & Thermals, Overclocking & Test Setup
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Page 6:3DMark & Battlefield 1
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Page 7:Civilization VI & Dota 2
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Page 8:Far Cry Primal, Grand Theft Auto & The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
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Page 9:Office & Productivity
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Page 10:Rendering, Encoding & Compression
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Page 11:Final Thoughts
Office & Productivity
Adobe Creative Cloud
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AMD's Ryzen 5 2400G beats the Ryzen 3 2200G in our Adobe suite, though a stock 2200G does pull off a few marginal wins in Photoshop.
The real winners are Intel's Core i5-8400 and i3-8100, though. Core i3-7100 is competitive against the stock Ryzen processors, but once again Intel's locked multipliers are a liability. The Ryzen models jump ahead after tuning.
Web Browser
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Web browser tests may not be the most demanding ones in our suite, but they are indicative of responsiveness in the most common workload for desktop computers.
The Krakken suite measures JavaScript performance using several workloads, including audio, imaging, and cryptography. It tends to go Intel's way due to the Core architecture's better per-core performance. This generalization holds true with AMD's Ryzen processors at their stock settings. However, overclocking allows the 2400G to carve out a lead. We see a similar outcome in WebXPRT.
The MotionMark benchmarks, which focus on testing graphics rather than JavaScript performance, are very sensitive to clock rate and IPC throughput. Not surprisingly, then, Intel's processors lead.
Productivity
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The start-up test calculates load times for several types of applications, such as word processors, GIMP, and Web browsers, in both warm- and cold-start conditions. This metric historically favors Intel's processors.
Video conferencing measures performance in single- and multi-user applications that utilize the Windows Media Foundation for video playback and encoding. It also performs facial detection during the workload. This complex task responds well to extra threads, so the overclocked Ryzen 5 2400G excels. Core i5-8400 does lead, but by less than the benchmark's inherent margin of error.
The photo editing benchmark measures performance with Futuremark's binaries that use the ImageMagick library. Common photo processing workloads also tend to be parallelized, and this time AMD's overclocked Ryzen 5 2400G wins (though again, by a slim margin). The 2400G isn't as convincing at stock settings, but it does beat the Core i3-8100 and -7100.
The spreadsheet workload favors high clock rates and IPC throughput, so the Intel processors lead convincingly.
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- The Fusion Of Zen & Vega
- The Raven Ridge Die
- 14nm+, Precision Boost 2 & Power Management
- SoC Capabilities & Vega
- Power & Thermals, Overclocking & Test Setup
- 3DMark & Battlefield 1
- Civilization VI & Dota 2
- Far Cry Primal, Grand Theft Auto & The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
- Office & Productivity
- Rendering, Encoding & Compression
- Final Thoughts
2. In the memory access tests I feel to see the relevance of comparing to higher teer Ryzen/ThreadRipper. Would rather see comparison to the four core Ryzens.
3. Why not also test overclocking with the Stealth cooler? (Works okay for Ryzen 3!)
4. Your comments about Coffee Lake on the last page:
"Their locked multipliers ... hurt their value proposition...
... a half-hearted attempt to court power users with an unlocked K-series Core i3, ... it requires a Z-series chipset..."
As of right now all Coffee Lake CPUs require a Z-series chipset, so that's not an added cost for overclocking. I'd say a locked multiplier combined with the demand for a costly motherboard is even worse. (This is suppsed to change soon though.)
I totally understand if you only have a few hundred dollars to build your PC with and you desperately want to get in on some master race action. That's the situation where the 2400G shines brightest. But the benchmarks show that games typically don't run well on this chip. They DO work under the right circumstances, but GTAV isn't as fun to play at low settings.
Buying a pre-built PC from a boutique with a GeForce 1050Ti in it will make your experience noticeably better if you can swing the price.
An APU can grant anyone who can afford at least a decent basic APU the enjoyment of playing most computer games. The visual quality of these games may not be up to the arrogantly high standards of most western gamers, but then again these same folks who are happy to have an APU also can not barely afford a 750p crt monitor much less a 4k flat screen.
This simple idea is huge not only for the laptop and pc market but especially game developers who can only expect to see an expansion of their Total Addressable Market. And that is good for everybody as broader markets help reduce the cost of development.
This in fact was the whole point behind AMD's release of Mantle and Microsoft and The Kronos Group's release of DX12 and Vulkan respectively.
Today's AMD APU has all of the power of a GPU Add In Board of not more than a several years back.
That is not correct, afaik, not for A320 chipsets. It is for B350 and X370, though.
"a card is still needed"
You do realize that these CPUs have an integrated graphics chip as strong as a GT 1030, right? And that you are comparing a ~$90 GPU to a ~$220 GPU?
If you can swing the price, grab a GTX 1080ti already, and let us mITX/poor/HTPC builders enjoy Witcher 3 in 1080p for a fraction of the price
When 1080p displays are available for as little as $80, there isn't much point in talking about 720p displays. I'm not even sure I can still buy one of those even if I wanted to unless I shopped used. (But then I could also shop for used 1080p displays and likely find one for less than $50.)
The price of 4k TVs is coming down nicely, I periodically see some 40+" models with HDR listed for as little as $300, cheaper than most monitors beyond 1080p.
Depends for who, not everyone is hell-bent on playing everything at 4k Ultra 120fps 0.1% lows. Once the early firmware/driver bugs get sorted out, it'll be good enough for people who aren't interested in shelling out ~$200 for a 1050/1050Ti alone or $300+ for anything beyond that. If your CPU+GPU budget is only $200, that only buys you a $100 CPU and GT1030 which is worse than Vega 11 stock.
If my current PC had a catastrophic failure and I had to rebuild in a pinch, I'd probably go with the 2400G instead of paying a grossly inflated price for a 1050 or better.
Summarizing: we are saving around 50-100$ for the same low-end performance. That's 25% to 40% cheaper. What are we complaining about?!? I'd be partying right now if that happened in high-end too!!! 300$ for a 1080...
All those comments saying "too weak", or "isn't fun to play at low settings", seriously, travel around the globe or just open your mind, there's poor people in 90% of the world, do you think they'll buy a frakking 1080 and a 8700k?!?
And there's even non-poor people that doesn't care about good graphics! Go figure!
Otherwise, why there are pixel graphics games all over the place? Or unoptimized/breaking early access games??
I have a high-end pc and still lower fps to minimum for competitive play, so I won't see any difference between a 1080Ti vs a 1070 (250 vs 170fps, who's gonna see that, my cat?!? No 'cause my monitor is not fast enough!).
Except that the DDR4 sticks went crazy expensive over here. FML
Most of my all-time favorite games (ex.: Portal 1&2) aren't particularly graphics-intensive. Better graphics doesn't automatically equate to more fun. Much of the time, it feels like a lot of the extra bling in modern games is there to distract from how unoriginal they otherwise are overall and the extra graphics budget would have been better spent in narration, game level and mechanics design.
1.) That is a mislink to the wrong product, we are fixing that, good eye! We used the same capacity for all systems.
2.) We do run into a bit of time pressure on these projects (to put it extremely lightly), especially when we are testing with new images, GPUs, and resolutions. Late FW and drivers also hurt. We have the 2200G review coming later this week and it has the 1300X in the test pool. I'll throw the memory measurements in for good measure.
3.) Thermal generation is a bit different with this chip--like Intel's Kaby Lake-G, we can overrun coolers at stock settings by hitting both units hard at once. We've got an article coming tomorrow that goes in depth on some of the more extreme scenarios where this can happen with the stock cooler - even at stock settings.
Oops, thx, fixed!
Several years back?
Considering this is a best case scenario with a pair of 3200Mhz CL14 Gskill FlareX, running off of a NVMe drive.
Try allocating 2GB to this iGPU on a true budget scenario fitting with your "barely afford a 750p crt monitor" narrative and you'll find that titles that would struggle with just 6GB of RAM which is of the barebone 2133/2400 variety that would choke the Vega iGPU (which is already known to favor high memory bandwidth; and god help them if they even try a 1x8GB DIMM on this config due to it being cheaper than a 2x4GB kit) + stuttering from then having to deal with virtual memory on a 7200rpm HDD.
Cache description is off. Zeppelin has 8x1MB blocks of L3 and 4 x L3 ctl blocks. Raven Ridge apparently has 4 x 1MB blocks and 2 x L3 ctl blocks.