Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) Review: For Overclockers Only?

The $290 (£260) ROG Maximus XI Hero’s price competes directly against feature-packed boards such as the 10GbE-equipped Taichi Ultimate and Firewire 3-equipped Designare, but its own feature set resembles those of boards costing around 10 percent less.  It overclocks slightly better than several of those rivals, and faces only the same level of pricing criticism as previously reserved for Gigabyte’s Z390 Aorus Master. Buyers who swear by Asus and Gigabyte can decide between these based on features alone, while those without a brand preference can find a better bargain elsewhere.

Specifications

SocketLGA 1151
ChipsetIntel Z390
Form FactorATX
Voltage Regulator10 Phases
Video PortsDisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 1.4b
USB Ports10 Gbps: (1) Type-C, (3) Type A
5Gb/s: (2) Type A; (2) USB 2.0
Network JacksGigabit Ethernet, (2) Wi-Fi Antenna
Audio Jacks(5) Analog, (1) Digital Out
Legacy Ports/Jacks(1) PS/2
Other Ports/JackCLR_CMOS, BIOS Flashback Buttons
PCIe x16(3) v3.0 ( x16/x0/x2*, x8/x8/x2*, x8/x8/x4*)
(*Two lanes shared w/SATA 5-6)
PCIe x8
PCIe x4
PCIe x1(3) v3.0
CrossFire/SLI3x / 2x
DIMM slots(4) DDR4
M.2 slots(1) PCIe 3.0 x4 / SATA*, (1) PCIe 3.0 x4
(*Consumes SATA port 2)
U.2 Ports
SATA Ports(6) 6Gb/s (Port 2 shared w/SATA M.2, 5-6 w/PCIe x16-3)
USB Headers(1) 10Gb/s Type-C*, (2) v3.0, (2) v2.0
(Consumes PCIe x1 slots 2/4)
Fan Headers(8) 4-Pin, (1) 3-pin Pump, (1) Asus Fan Extension Card
Legacy InterfacesSystem (Beep-code) Speaker
Other InterfacesFP-Audio, (2) RGB-LED, (2) D-LED, TPM, Asus NODE, Thermistor, (2) Water FlowD
Diagnostics PanelNumeric
Internal Button/SwitchPower, Reset, Boot Retry / MemOK
SATA ControllersIntegrated (0/1/5/10)
Ethernet ControllersWGI219V PHY
Wi-Fi / BluetoothIntel 9560 802.11ac 2x2 (1.73Gb/s) / BT 5 Combo
USB Controllers
HD Audio CodecALC1220
DDL/DTS Connect
Warranty3 Years

Dial it up to eleven and back by four, but don’t dare call the Maximus XI Hero a mere seven: The fourth-from-top model in Asus’s highest-end Republic Of Gamers series is still a Maximus, even though it has fewer features than its siblings. We still get for example a pair of PCIe x16 slots that support SLI in x8/x8 mode, along with voltage regulator refinements and firmware advancements to aid in the all-important task of overclocking. Oh, and M.2 SSD heat spreaders: We get two of those, too.

The I/O section looks fairly typical among Z390 gaming boards, its 1.73Gb/s Wi-Fi coming from Intel’s 9560 CNVi PHY that interfaces the Z390 PCH’s integrated controller, its Gigabit Ethernet from Intel’s i219V PHY, its four USB 3.1 Gen2 ports (including the one Type-C) fed by the integrated controller, along with two Gen1 and two USB 2.0 Ports for a keyboard and mouse. The DisplayPort is still version 1.2, the HDMI output is still version 1.4b (4K at 30Hz), and the only Asus feature being its USB BIOS Flashback button. That last feature allows users to upgrade firmware to support a newer CPU or DRAM without requiring them to have an old one on-hand to use during the update process.

Power and Reset buttons are placed in the upper-front corner so they’ll still be useful when the board is mounted in a case…just in case you didn’t connect the case’s power and reset buttons properly. The Maximus XI Hero also has a status code display with a row of CPU/DRAM/VGA/Boot initialization indicator LEDs beneath it, eight 4-pin fan headers, two RGB LED headers, and two Addressable LED (aka Digital LED strip) headers.

If eight 4-pin fans aren’t enough for you, four more can be connected to an Asus Fan Extension Card, for which the 5-pin header can be found at the center of the Maximus XI Hero’s bottom edge. To its left are an Asus Retry button, MemOK II switch, TPM header, the second RGB LED and D-LED header, and front-panel audio. Front-panel USB 3.0, Asus Node, two USB 2.0, four-pin fan, beep-code speaker, and an Intel-standard front-panel button/LED group headers are to the right of the fan extension card header, and you’ll even notice a 3-pin fan header a little higher on the front edge.

Asus calls its three-pin fan header the Water Flow header, since it controls pump speed in response to readings from the two water flow sensor headers above it. As for the Retry button, it’s useful for overclocked systems that can only boot sometimes, since it doesn’t interfere with firmware settings. Enabled by default, the MemOK II switch tells the board that it’s OK to reboot at lower DRAM settings if a memory error is detected. Meanwhile, the Asus Node header allows agreeable third parties to develop specialized accessories to interact directly with firmware.

A new voltage regulator with ten MOSFETs and ten chokes sends power through eight of those “phases” to CPU cores, and without getting too far into the weeds concerning the design, offers at least 360A to CPU cores. Other points of interest include a USB 3.1 Gen2 front-panel header next to the 24-pin power connector, and a USB 3.0 port that, by being on the bottom edge, would preclude the installation of most graphics cards into the bottom slot whenever the front-panel cable is connected. We’re not too concerned about people using that slot for high-end graphics cards though, since it has only two PCH lanes by default and can only be pushed up to four PCH lanes by manually switching off two SATA ports in firmware.

With no other concerns about mounting space when using x16 or x1 expansion cards, we would like to note that the Maximus XI Hero’s open-ended x1 slots could encourage some users to load it up will all sorts of devices, and that there are some caveats in doing so. We pulled out a PCIe x16 single-slot graphics card to find that installing it into the top x1 slot requires the removal of the nearby M.2 heat spreader, but that the card’s connector clears an M.2 drive. Adding it to the second x1 slot forces its connector to rest between the two rows of pins of an undefined mini header that’s adjacent to the RTC battery, and we’re not sure if that could be a problem. The lower M.2 slot’s hardware prevents anything longer than an x8 card from being installed in the third open-ended PCIe x1 slot.

The Maximus XI Hero includes a driver disc, four SATA cables, RGB LED and addressable LED extension cables, a beverage coaster, Wi-Fi antenna, legacy high-bandwidth SLI bridge, manual, cablemod.com rebate offer, and ROG sticker pack.

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  • PapaCrazy
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
  • CVPhere
    Voltage regulator refinements? You mean downgrading to a 4 phase that runs hotter than all the other board at this price point? How is that a "refinement"? Did the Asus PR firm tell you to write that?
  • Crashman
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong.
    2442724 said:
    Voltage regulator refinements? You mean downgrading to a 4 phase that runs hotter than all the other board at this price point? How is that a "refinement"? Did the Asus PR firm tell you to write that?
    Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
  • miroslavhm
    hmm, I bought one on BF sale with deep discount, and I am not extreme overclocker - I want it mostly for I/Os, DAC sound and software stability. So, I will probably keep it, but it is indeed a great disappointment that Asus cheap-ed out on the VRMs. If I was paying the same, I would choose Gigabyte Aorus Master, although I am a little concerned in their ability to maintain good drivers for all the add-ons
  • PapaCrazy
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong.
    2442724 said:
    Voltage regulator refinements? You mean downgrading to a 4 phase that runs hotter than all the other board at this price point? How is that a "refinement"? Did the Asus PR firm tell you to write that?
    Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.


    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
  • vilegreed
    I had to update the bios on mine before it worked..also am disappointed in 4 phase b.s.
  • Crashman
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong.
    2442724 said:
    Voltage regulator refinements? You mean downgrading to a 4 phase that runs hotter than all the other board at this price point? How is that a "refinement"? Did the Asus PR firm tell you to write that?
    Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
    So what, you staked your claim without even looking at the data? We took the opposite approach and gathered the data before writing about the board. It's right there under "Voltage Regulator" half-way down Page 4.
  • c.francioni
    Try to do oc on an unselected CPU, where to be stable at 5ghz 1.30v are not enough, then tell me what temperatures you have on VRM ....
    signed "happy owner of Aorus Master"
  • PapaCrazy
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong.
    2442724 said:
    Voltage regulator refinements? You mean downgrading to a 4 phase that runs hotter than all the other board at this price point? How is that a "refinement"? Did the Asus PR firm tell you to write that?
    Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
    So what, you staked your claim without even looking at the data? We took the opposite approach and gathered the data before writing about the board. It's right there under "Voltage Regulator" half-way down Page 4.


    My 'claim' comes from Hardware Unboxed who measured temps of about 15c difference. Curious why the results differ so much. There are rightful questions about VRM quality and marketing dishonesty. You're out of touch with community concerns to ignore these in your review.
  • lefurre
    Hardware Unboxed noted that the Asus Hero enforced the TDP limit on the 9900k. That's why the VRM isn't showing as an issue.

    Gigabyte also ran TDP at stock settings.

    Once reviewers equalized the overclock levels on the boards (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock) that's when the 9900k drama began but it also highlighted that ASUS used 4 phase VRM.

    Hardware Unboxed called them out for lying to their consumers - in fact, Hardware Unboxed were not supplied a test sample of the Hero. They bought it themselves to test.

    It's there on YouTube. Go look.
  • Crashman
    2843538 said:
    Try to do oc on an unselected CPU, where to be stable at 5ghz 1.30v are not enough, then tell me what temperatures you have on VRM .... signed "happy owner of Aorus Master"
    We can't push the CPU any higher without overheating it, so long as we're using Prime95 small-FFTs to test it. Would you have us use a less-stressful test at higher clocks and voltages?
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong. Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
    So what, you staked your claim without even looking at the data? We took the opposite approach and gathered the data before writing about the board. It's right there under "Voltage Regulator" half-way down Page 4.
    My 'claim' comes from Hardware Unboxed who measured temps of about 15c difference. Curious why the results differ so much. There are rightful questions about VRM quality and marketing dishonesty. You're out of touch with community concerns to ignore these in your review.
    I knew about your concerns, so I looked for the potential problems during the testing. Did you expect me to say, "even though we didn't see high heat or poor efficiency, we need to warn you that the design could theoretically produce high heat and poor efficiency"? Having found no alarming heat or power data, I decided that the most honest thing to do was to let you argue about it here.
    2844057 said:
    Hardware Unboxed noted that the Asus Hero enforced the TDP limit on the 9900k. That's why the VRM isn't showing as an issue. Gigabyte also ran TDP at stock settings. Once reviewers equalized the overclock levels on the boards (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock) that's when the 9900k drama began but it also highlighted that ASUS used 4 phase VRM. Hardware Unboxed called them out for lying to their consumers - in fact, Hardware Unboxed were not supplied a test sample of the Hero. They bought it themselves to test. It's there on YouTube. Go look.
    I really wish you'd read the review before you say we didn't do something. We did normalize it. That's why the charts show two results for the board, "default" and "uncap". Go look.
  • PapaCrazy
    8708 said:
    2843538 said:
    Try to do oc on an unselected CPU, where to be stable at 5ghz 1.30v are not enough, then tell me what temperatures you have on VRM .... signed "happy owner of Aorus Master"
    We can't push the CPU any higher without overheating it, so long as we're using Prime95 small-FFTs to test it. Would you have us use a less-stressful test at higher clocks and voltages?
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong. Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
    So what, you staked your claim without even looking at the data? We took the opposite approach and gathered the data before writing about the board. It's right there under "Voltage Regulator" half-way down Page 4.
    My 'claim' comes from Hardware Unboxed who measured temps of about 15c difference. Curious why the results differ so much. There are rightful questions about VRM quality and marketing dishonesty. You're out of touch with community concerns to ignore these in your review.
    I knew about your concerns, so I looked for the potential problems during the testing. Did you expect me to say, "even though we didn't see high heat or poor efficiency, we need to warn you that the design could theoretically produce high heat and poor efficiency"? Having found no alarming heat or power data, I decided that the most honest thing to do was to let you argue about it here.
    2844057 said:
    Hardware Unboxed noted that the Asus Hero enforced the TDP limit on the 9900k. That's why the VRM isn't showing as an issue. Gigabyte also ran TDP at stock settings. Once reviewers equalized the overclock levels on the boards (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock) that's when the 9900k drama began but it also highlighted that ASUS used 4 phase VRM. Hardware Unboxed called them out for lying to their consumers - in fact, Hardware Unboxed were not supplied a test sample of the Hero. They bought it themselves to test. It's there on YouTube. Go look.
    I really wish you'd read the review before you say we didn't do something. We did normalize it. That's why the charts show two results for the board, "default" and "uncap". Go look.


    Since you’re asking me edit questions (I suspect rhetorically, but nonetheless) here’s your copy: “PC builders have had concerns over the marketing accuracy and design of Asus’s “twin 8 phase” VRM, which implements four increased amperage phases and a switcher. Competing boards in the same price range offer up to 12 phases, but have less rated amperage per phase. We found only slight differences in VRM temperatures between boards in our testing.”

    If the biggest thing on everyone’s mind is the VRM quality, enough to cause a controversy (as other manufacturers have caused for pulling the same stunt) then I’d expect a publication with readers’ interests in mind to address that somehow. Either with an in-depth review that uses thermal probes or camera, in a variety of test condition to thoroughly address the question or, lacking that, certainly more than a euphemism like “refined voltage regulator”. If I purchased a Hero over an Aorus based on their stated equivalency in this review I’d feel misled.

    And, no, arguing with people in the comments section does not count as honest journalism. Maybe that was tongue in cheek, but it’s an indicator of TH’s current direction.
  • Crashman
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    2843538 said:
    Try to do oc on an unselected CPU, where to be stable at 5ghz 1.30v are not enough, then tell me what temperatures you have on VRM .... signed "happy owner of Aorus Master"
    We can't push the CPU any higher without overheating it, so long as we're using Prime95 small-FFTs to test it. Would you have us use a less-stressful test at higher clocks and voltages?
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong. Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
    So what, you staked your claim without even looking at the data? We took the opposite approach and gathered the data before writing about the board. It's right there under "Voltage Regulator" half-way down Page 4.
    My 'claim' comes from Hardware Unboxed who measured temps of about 15c difference. Curious why the results differ so much. There are rightful questions about VRM quality and marketing dishonesty. You're out of touch with community concerns to ignore these in your review.
    I knew about your concerns, so I looked for the potential problems during the testing. Did you expect me to say, "even though we didn't see high heat or poor efficiency, we need to warn you that the design could theoretically produce high heat and poor efficiency"? Having found no alarming heat or power data, I decided that the most honest thing to do was to let you argue about it here.
    2844057 said:
    Hardware Unboxed noted that the Asus Hero enforced the TDP limit on the 9900k. That's why the VRM isn't showing as an issue. Gigabyte also ran TDP at stock settings. Once reviewers equalized the overclock levels on the boards (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock) that's when the 9900k drama began but it also highlighted that ASUS used 4 phase VRM. Hardware Unboxed called them out for lying to their consumers - in fact, Hardware Unboxed were not supplied a test sample of the Hero. They bought it themselves to test. It's there on YouTube. Go look.
    I really wish you'd read the review before you say we didn't do something. We did normalize it. That's why the charts show two results for the board, "default" and "uncap". Go look.
    Since you’re asking me edit questions (I suspect rhetorically, but nonetheless) here’s your copy: “PC builders have had concerns over the marketing accuracy and design of Asus’s “twin 8 phase” VRM, which implements four increased amperage phases and a switcher. Competing boards in the same price range offer up to 12 phases, but have less rated amperage per phase. We found only slight differences in VRM temperatures between boards in our testing.” If the biggest thing on everyone’s mind is the VRM quality, enough to cause a controversy (as other manufacturers have caused for pulling the same stunt) then I’d expect a publication with readers’ interests in mind to address that somehow. Either with an in-depth review that uses thermal probes or camera, in a variety of test condition to thoroughly address the question or, lacking that, certainly more than a euphemism like “refined voltage regulator”. If I purchased a Hero over an Aorus based on their stated equivalency in this review I’d feel misled. And, no, arguing with people in the comments section does not count as honest journalism. Maybe that was tongue in cheek, but it’s an indicator of TH’s current direction.
    Current direction, past direction, as far as I can remember we've always hashed out with readers the stuff we couldn't prove in testing.

    I do like the way you phrased that first paragraph though, too bad you're not writing for us yet. We also had a grand tradition of writers showing up the boss that would probably be worth revisiting.
  • PapaCrazy
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    2843538 said:
    Try to do oc on an unselected CPU, where to be stable at 5ghz 1.30v are not enough, then tell me what temperatures you have on VRM .... signed "happy owner of Aorus Master"
    We can't push the CPU any higher without overheating it, so long as we're using Prime95 small-FFTs to test it. Would you have us use a less-stressful test at higher clocks and voltages?
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    8708 said:
    641776 said:
    No mention of the 4 phase being marketed as "twin 8" phase? Then you give this 4 phase board the same exact rating as a competing board that has 12? VRM temps have been shown to be over 15c difference. This review is neglectful, and its advice is downright wrong.
    The test showed that the board performed in an exemplary fashion. Disregarding the test data that doesn't agree with your assumptions is downright wrong. Except that it didn't run hotter than all the other boards and was only a scant few degrees warmer than the Gigabyte board.
    What data are you referring to? There is no test for VRM temperatures in this review. You have to go elsewhere for that. While overclocking ("For Overclockers Only", right?) the VRM temps differ by more than a "scant few degrees".
    So what, you staked your claim without even looking at the data? We took the opposite approach and gathered the data before writing about the board. It's right there under "Voltage Regulator" half-way down Page 4.
    My 'claim' comes from Hardware Unboxed who measured temps of about 15c difference. Curious why the results differ so much. There are rightful questions about VRM quality and marketing dishonesty. You're out of touch with community concerns to ignore these in your review.
    I knew about your concerns, so I looked for the potential problems during the testing. Did you expect me to say, "even though we didn't see high heat or poor efficiency, we need to warn you that the design could theoretically produce high heat and poor efficiency"? Having found no alarming heat or power data, I decided that the most honest thing to do was to let you argue about it here.
    2844057 said:
    Hardware Unboxed noted that the Asus Hero enforced the TDP limit on the 9900k. That's why the VRM isn't showing as an issue. Gigabyte also ran TDP at stock settings. Once reviewers equalized the overclock levels on the boards (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock) that's when the 9900k drama began but it also highlighted that ASUS used 4 phase VRM. Hardware Unboxed called them out for lying to their consumers - in fact, Hardware Unboxed were not supplied a test sample of the Hero. They bought it themselves to test. It's there on YouTube. Go look.
    I really wish you'd read the review before you say we didn't do something. We did normalize it. That's why the charts show two results for the board, "default" and "uncap". Go look.
    Since you’re asking me edit questions (I suspect rhetorically, but nonetheless) here’s your copy: “PC builders have had concerns over the marketing accuracy and design of Asus’s “twin 8 phase” VRM, which implements four increased amperage phases and a switcher. Competing boards in the same price range offer up to 12 phases, but have less rated amperage per phase. We found only slight differences in VRM temperatures between boards in our testing.” If the biggest thing on everyone’s mind is the VRM quality, enough to cause a controversy (as other manufacturers have caused for pulling the same stunt) then I’d expect a publication with readers’ interests in mind to address that somehow. Either with an in-depth review that uses thermal probes or camera, in a variety of test condition to thoroughly address the question or, lacking that, certainly more than a euphemism like “refined voltage regulator”. If I purchased a Hero over an Aorus based on their stated equivalency in this review I’d feel misled. And, no, arguing with people in the comments section does not count as honest journalism. Maybe that was tongue in cheek, but it’s an indicator of TH’s current direction.
    Current direction, past direction, as far as I can remember we've always hashed out with readers the stuff we couldn't prove in testing. I do like the way you phrased that first paragraph though, too bad you're not writing for us yet. We also had a grand tradition of writers showing up the boss that would probably be worth revisiting.


    Well, my statements on the article still stand (people who aren’t up to date on community ramblings, or scroll to the comments deserve the heads up) but I do appreciate you, or any other staff, willing to hash it up with readers.

    Still got faith in TH community, including writers. I’m sure there’s enough panicked pundits around to shake the tree still.