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Chris Angelini is an Editor Emeritus at Tom's Hardware US. He edits hardware reviews and covers high-profile CPU and GPU launches.
  • dattimr
    Nice one. Tom's is getting its act together again. Keep it up, guys.
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  • Hamsterabed
    How very odd, when i saw the benches i immediately thought there was a problem. Glad you guys made an article to explain and backup you numbers and i hope we get some answers. don't have another driver fail Nvidia...
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  • Tindytim
    Wow...

    Just wow.

    Right when I considering leaving this site forever for it's over Mac loving, Tom flashes me a glimmer of hope.
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  • rdawise
    Thank you Chris for this follow-up article..now where is kknd to argue....

    I am sorry but we all know that at lower resolutions the Core i7 will beat the P2, but as the article states, but real world the PII is hitting the high notes. Could this be a driver screw up from Nvidia...probably since you're elimnating everything else. Are there any other x-factors out there...oh yes plenty more. However I think people will get the wrong impression if they read this and think the PII is "more powerful" than the Core i7. Some one who reads this should come away thinking that the PII will give you almost as great gaming as some of the Core i7s can for less money. (Time for a price cut intel).

    I do a question what if you tried using memory with different timings. I believe 8-8-8-24 was used last test, but how about 7-7-7-20? Just trying to help think of reasons. Either way it gives us something to look forward to in the CPU world. Good follow-up.
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  • rdawise
    Thank you Chris for this follow-up article..now where is kknd to argue....

    I am sorry but we all know that at lower resolutions the Core i7 will beat the P2, but as the article states, but real world the PII is hitting the high notes. Could this be a driver screw up from Nvidia...probably since you're elimnating everything else. Are there any other x-factors out there...oh yes plenty more. However I think people will get the wrong impression if they read this and think the PII is "more powerful" than the Core i7. Some one who reads this should come away thinking that the PII will give you almost as great gaming as some of the Core i7s can for less money. (Time for a price cut intel).

    I do a question what if you tried using memory with different timings. I believe 8-8-8-24 was used last test, but how about 7-7-7-20? Just trying to help think of reasons. Either way it gives us something to look forward to in the CPU world. Good follow-up.
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  • sohei
    "I believe 8-8-8-24 was used last test, but how about 7-7-7-20? Just trying to help think of reasons"

    wow 7-7-7-20? this is the performance...indeed
    P2 works with ddr2 great and you wary about timings
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  • great article!!
    just a thought: what about previous generation of nvidia cards? could be this is a GTX 260/285/280/... problem. maybe you could try with one of 9xxx series.
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  • StupidRabbit
    awesome article.. only two pages long but it changes the way i look at the previous benchmarks. good to see you focus not only on the hardware itself but also on the benchmarks with a real sense of objectivity.. its what makes this site great.
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  • cobra420
    so it looks like a gpu issue . why not try a gtx 295 ? or is that why you set the video so low ? now you found the issue theirs no need to try a different card ? ati sure did a good job on there 4870 series . nice job toms
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  • Maybe Farcry optimized it more on ATI, maybe Intel is throwing sticks at the wheels of nVidia at the hardware level, maybe, maybe ... :S
    Why is Intel supporting multi-ATI config, but not multi-nVidia? Why doesn't Intel let nVidia use its Atom freely? Why, oh why?
    There are so many factors. I think if you replace Farcry with a synthetic test, there will be less unknowns. Just maybe :)
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