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We all know that person who has to buy the best of everything. This person doesn't need industrial strength, but if it is an option, that is the product they choose. I feel sorry for those people, because the new Samsung 850 EVO 4TB, like the 2TB before it, is the consumer SSD version of industrial strength.
The high capacity 850 EVO's success isn't a mistake. The configuration is very close to one of Samsung's enterprise products, which are usually one generation ahead of the consumer version. The Samsung PM863 4TB has shipped for several months, but the company scheduled the series for an update that will increase the capacity up to 8TB. That's not to say we will see an 850 EVO 8TB anytime soon, but that is the promise of 3D V-NAND.
Until now, SSDs have been the little drives that you put an operating system on but still have to use a hard disk drive for capacity storage, be it either inside the box, or outside the box in a NAS or DAS system. The Samsung 850 EVO 4TB matches even the largest 2.5" hard disk drive in capacity, and for the first time in a consumer SSD, the 850 EVO 4TB actually packs the same density into a smaller package.
Seagate ships a 4TB hard disk drive, but it still requires a 15mm Z-height (thickness), which is a standard ripped from enterprise products. Unlike the larger drives, the 850 EVO uses the consumer-standard 7mm Z-height that is compatible with notebooks. The biggest hard disk drive in the notebook-friendly form factor is 2TB, which is half the size of the 850 Evo 4TB. In the future, SSD capacity will grow in large bursts similar to the 850 Evo's jump from 2TB to 4TB. This jump isn't a shot across the bow to hard disk drive manufacturers; it's a boot on the throat.
Performance and price are two other important points that we should consider beyond just the capacity increase. The Samsung 850 EVO 4TB is not just the fastest consumer SSD ever to ship; it is also the most expensive currently on the market. The Intel SSD 750 1.2TB, a very high-performance NVMe SSD designed for enthusiasts and professional users, was the previous "most expensive" titleholder. At $1,200 the SSD 750 gave many enthusiasts sticker shock, and we expect the same reaction to the 850 EVO 4TB's $1,499 MSRP.
The 850 Evo's price will decrease over time. The first four 850 EVO SSDs (120GB to 1TB) now cost 40 percent less than the launch-time MSRP. The year-old 850 EVO 2TB has barely moved the needle, but that should change now that Samsung has moved the drives over to new 48-layer NAND with double the die density.
The fact that Samsung did not release an 850 Pro 4TB is very telling. Analysts have been projecting for several years that the flash manufacturers will ship more TLC flash this year than MLC. TLC flash is a depressing thought for some enthusiasts, but the technology from other flash manufacturers fails to deliver the same performance or endurance as Samsung's 3D V-NAND TLC. Samsung's 3D TLC V-NAND is so good that we should only compare it to MLC flash from other manufacturers.
Now that Samsung has a 4TB SSD others will follow with a comparable product, like the OWC Mercury Electra 2TB. Unfortunately, those vendors that match the 4TB capacity point use low-cost, low-performance components to bridge two SSDs internally. The weak spot is the RAID controller, and two wrongs don't make a right. Without 3D NAND flash, controllers that can address large DRAM memory buffers, and the technology to put it all together, it will be difficult for others to match Samsung's 4TB offering.
Samsung didn't take any shortcuts to get to 4TB, but that magic comes at a high price.
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What a beast!Reply
And i'm here with the 250GB...Reply
In term's on technology, this is amazing, small, fast, good storage, hope the prices will be a little cheap!!
Great technological evolution for SSDs! In a really short time too...Reply
But the only culprit is the price, but overtime it might drop down to a logical price that appeals to us end users.
At that price, they can keep it. I will just sit here with my 480gb Sandisk Ultra II and Toshiba 4tb HDD, for now.Reply
For regular people a 250 gb SSD will work perfectly well and a HDD for storing photos and videos will do fine.... considering a 4 TB HDD cost 1/10th of this...Reply
Personally if I had the money to spend I would wait. Since the SM961 was released based on a new controller and now micron/intel and others are starting to push out 3d nand products id wait until the 860 series (which should be out by the end of the year) a new controller and more competition (which samsung really doesnt have now when it comes to 3d nand) should make for cheaper drives :)Reply
Nice review. Glad the low TBW was pointed out. Samsung would sell a few more if they increased it to 1,200TB, the same ratio TBW to size as their smaller 850 EVO drives. The future is grand for SSD storage; would not want to be a disk-based storage company right now.Reply
If you are writing 1.2 petabytes of data, you are buying the wrong drive. lolReply
"This jump isn't a shot across the bow to hard disk drive manufacturers; it's a boot on the throat".Reply
In fact, I am having a hard time thinking which kind of consumer could make use of such SSD, at these prices.
I just so happened to be looking for a 4-bay NAS for home storage, and for ~$1600 I can get 24TB in Raid5 configuration. All inclusive, and with a fairly decent NAS (Qnap TS451).
A 6TB consumer HDD sells for $160. So we're talking about nearly 10X lower cost for 50% more capacity. Yes, of course, the HDD is massively slower, but HDD are still way faster than anyone needs, for streaming videos. Which if you need 4~6TB, and you are a consumer, it is probably what you need the disk for.
So the advantages of this drives boil down to:
a) Single disk setup
b) Large storage on a laptop
Point a) is “convenient”, at best, but would anyone pay ~$1200 for such convenience? (With $300 you can get a 500GB SSD + 6TB HDD).
Point b) may make a difference … however, seeing how the few laptops that ship with SSD have options for 128GB or 256GB, the 4GB is really wishful thinking. And, again, this carries more than $1K premium. Not for everyone, that’s for sure.
IMHO, this is great technological advance, that goes in the right direction, but I see no practical use, and very little market, for it. Again, IMHO.
The statement was made looking at the long term. Samsung could sell this drive today for $700 if it wanted. It uses the same controller and die arrangement as the 2TB drive. The additional 2GB of DRAM is a rounding error for most.Reply
Think of it as a proof of concept for many people right now at a $1500 price point. What happens when Samsung moves to 60-layer TLC flash with 384Gbit density (estimated)? The $700 moves down to $400.
If you don't think HDD companies are scared of flash then why are they buying IP and assets as fast as possible?