AMD's FX-8150 After Two Windows 7 Hotfixes And UEFI Updates
Introducing a new processor architecture takes a colossal effort. AMD's modular Bulldozer design ran into its share of resistance at launch. Can a handful of software updates turn the company's flagship FX-8150 into the powerhouse AMD promised?
Minimal Gains, But Hope Remains For AMD's FX
The nicest thing about working for a site that clearly separates the editorial and sales departments is that the reviewers are able to represent your best interests without any interference. Yes, we get hardware sent to us, but as you know, we don't hold back when it comes to telling you what we think about the components that land in our lab.
In this case, we decided to run our complete benchmark suite instead of testing the examples of software that AMD hand-picked as most-affected by Microsoft's scheduling efforts. Old games running at low resolutions, for example, are hardly worth running (beyond their value as synthetics, that is). That's why we spent a few days testing the hardware the way we would use it. And, at the end, we saw little to no improvement from the evolutionary changes implemented by Microsoft and some of AMD's motherboard partners to help augment performance.
On the other hand, the results of this little exploration suggest to us that there's really no good reason for fans of AMD's efforts to switch sides. Intel's biggest performance advantage surfaced in the same low-resolution gaming situations that no self-proclaimed enthusiast would ever want to use. If I had to pay more for power, like some of our European colleagues, it'd be a lot easier to steer you toward Intel's more mainstream Sandy Bridge-based chips. However, we've also noticed that many enthusiasts put less emphasis on power consumption than absolute performance or overclocking headroom.
AMD has certain advantages, such as its 990FX-based motherboards with nearly twice as many PCIe lanes than similarly-priced Z68-based boards. If you're in the Intel camp, getting that sort of connectivity requires LGA 2011, dinging you with much more expensive motherboards and processors that cost up to $1050. Ouch.
With all of that said, the point of this exercise was to test for improvements in AMD's most recent architecture after several months of patches to Windows 7 and firmware updates. Unfortunately, in our benchmark suite, which is largely made up of applications that our audience has requested over the past year, the speed-ups we were hoping for were not apparent. Only a single application benefited noticeably as a result of the HPC mode that prevents frequency drops in heavy workloads. Thus, most of the discussion surrounding scheduling optimizations remains theoretical, rather than practical.
The silver lining is that Microsoft tells us Windows 7, even patched, is not indicative of how Windows 8 will behave. In our own exploration of performance in the developer build, FX did, in fact, yield better numbers.
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azathoth Sigh* I was expecting to see small gains of maybe ~8% optimistically, but instead I see microscopic improvements.Reply
It is simply embarrassing for an eight core processor to be beaten by a quad core, even considering some apps don't support more then two or four cores. -
JonnyDough In our own exploration of performance in the developer build, FX did, in fact, yield better numbers.
There it is. That's all you need to know. AMD made a processor that was too ahead of software to be viable. Forward thinking is good, but the software just wasn't ready for it. I have a feeling they'll be ahead though when it comes to the next architectural design. They are after all, pioneering the way. -
clownbaby Like putting lipstick on a pig. I don't understand the method behind AMD's madness with these chips. They're basically relying on software to take advantage of optimization instead of developing a truly fast and efficient architecture. More cores may be the way of the future, but AMD can't compete with intel if it's using twice as much silicon (or more) to achieve similar results. They're reputation as a value alternative can only hang around so long before consumers wake up. I sure hope their next chip takes a large step forward, if for no other reason than to keep intel CPUs affordable.Reply -
I still cant get past that the 8 core 8150 is slower then a quad core no hyper threading 2500k doing a 3DS Max Render. 248 frames, 8 at once on the 8150, 4 at once on the 2500k, but the 2500k actually finishes rendering each frames in under half the time it takes the 8150 to render a frame.Reply
That is just pathetic for an 8 core to fail at rendering. -
KelvinTy Sigh... The change is so insignificant that they don't even need to exist...Reply
My God, AMD... the 2500K just shhhh all over your face again... Why would you do such thing! -
soccerdocks stm1185I still cant get past that the 8 core 8150 is slower then a quad core no hyper threading 2500k doing a 3DS Max Render. 248 frames, 8 at once on the 8150, 4 at once on the 2500k, but the 2500k actually finishes rendering each frames in under half the time it takes the 8150 to render a frame. That is just pathetic for an 8 core to fail at rendering.Reply
Is rendering a floating point operation or integer operation? The 8150 is not truly an 8 core processor. Although it may perform like one in some aspects, it does not have 8 full cores. -
de5_Roy great read. too bad the patches didn't improve performance. hopefully win 8 will change it. by then, piledriver and trinity might become available.Reply
it was funny to see stock 2500k's superior capability (especially at 1080p) as a gaming cpu. i recently read in some thread - one guy claiming that 8150's 8 cores (2500k has only 4 cores) improve performance in cpu bound scenarios.
power consumption is still bad. if amd gets at least 10% better with win 8, that will mean 23 watts less! there's still hope there....i hope...
i wonder what will happen in multiplayer games e.g. bf3 where cpu is important. from starcraft figures, looks like stock 8150 won't be able to keep up with stock 2500k. -
_Pez_ hmm well if there are "8" cores divided in 4 modules . Then why not do multitasking on both AMD "Octa" and Intel quadcore "Hyper treaded CPU's" with multiple programs and see what numbers/time are droped out. Is think my idea could probably show something different.. let's keep giving a try to AMD's new architecture....Reply