AI’s Dreadful December: Lawsuits, plagiarism and child abuse images show the perils of training on data taken without consent.

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In recent years, consumers and the media have focused a lot of attention on how physical tech products are manufactured, who makes them and where the materials come from. Now that generative AI has taken the world by storm, we have to ask the companies behind the leading LLMs (Large Language Models) a similar question: where does your training data come from and is it ethically sourced? The answer is likely “no.”

Using generative AI today is like buying from a seedy pawn shop. The goods, aka training data, could be legit sales from the owner, high-quality merchandise that was stolen from a boutique or low-quality shlock that was pilfered from a warehouse full of knockoffs. 

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  • setx
    AI articles look to be the only ones where Tom's put effort into.

    How about remembering that you are hardware site and put the same effort in hardware reviews? Like, with with argumentation, linking to other sites research etc. what you are doing here?
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  • Jeremy Kaplan
    It's hard to ignore the biggest topic in technology, @setx! But I hear you. In the last 3 months, we've hired half a dozen new news writer and really doubled down on our coverage of the semiconductor space. We've also published for the first time ever our RAM benchmark hierarchy and SSD benchmark hierarchy. What specifically would you like to see more of?
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  • setx
    Jeremy Kaplan said:
    What specifically would you like to see more of?
    I want to see true, authentic articles about hardware like this one: Hacking Your Mouse To Fix The Misclick Of Doom
    Not the ads masquerading as articles that Tom is full of now. Like "best (for us) amazon links".

    Let's take your RAM benchmark hierarchy and look at DDR5. First of all: why there are separate lists for AMD and Intel? Are some parameters more important for former or later? Why AMD list is only for 2x16GB and tops at DDR5-6200 (while I definitely know there are people running DDR5-8000 there)? Did you have any problems with other capacities or speed? The "score" was measured with which CPU? Is there a difference for high-end/mid/low CPUs? Is there difference with different microcode versions (there is for sure for AMD)? There are way more questions than answers after looking at that list. Seriously, that "article" isn't useful at all.
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  • parkerthon
    I agree to an extent. I enjoy reading about AI which is no doubt why it’s a popular choice for content, but news summarizing news about how the AI industry is fairing is something I don’t come to Toms to read about. Someone needs to cover computer hardware more even if it’s niche. AI is, after all, heavily dependent on hardware even if it is all built for a microsoft/amazon/google data center.
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  • apiltch
    After having worked on the
    parkerthon said:
    I agree to an extent. I enjoy reading about AI which is no doubt why it’s a popular choice for content, but news summarizing news about how the AI industry is fairing is something I don’t come to Toms to read about. Someone needs to cover computer hardware more even if it’s niche. AI is, after all, heavily dependent on hardware even if it is all built for a microsoft/amazon/google data center.
    We have covered and continue to cover AI hardware. Please see the AI benchmarking story I did on various laptops last week:

    https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/i-tested-intels-meteor-lake-cpus-on-ai-workloads-and-amds-chips-sometimes-beat-them
    I wouldn't call the current article a news summary as much as it's an op-ed on the problems with allowing software vendors to build their platforms on massive theft of copyrighted IP. This has serious implications for the future of computing.
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  • George³
    apiltch said:
    wouldn't call the current article a news summary as much as it's an op-ed on the problems with allowing software vendors to build their platforms on massive theft of copyrighted IP.
    Journalism copyright is under questions. What you saying IP? Unless the journalists and owners of the NY Tymes claim that they organized the events they cover.
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  • coromonadalix
    anything published on the web now serve as a learning database

    for sure Ai gurus will act as : now it's online, you have no control of it anymore, like facecrap and others

    good luck putting strong regulations over that
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  • tamalero
    They were warned ages ago about this.
    And its going to be worse. We're entering the age of POST TRUTH.
    Where truth will be almost impossible to distinguish itself from fabricated AI bull.
    Everyone can be targeted, specially those with the money and means.
    Like the surge of AI CP and deep fake sex videos.
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  • rabbit4me2
    Goes to show you just like typical American behavior you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    Getting around a paywall is different than reproducing the open web (open web defined as accessible without paying or requiring certain credentials). If I go to a certain article from TomsHardware, for example, I'm using an adblocker so I don't see ads, I use NoScript so dotmetrics, google-analytics, jwplatform, onesignal, parsley, permutive, and scorecardresearch are all blocked. If I ask Bing Copilot to reproduce the same article, I'm still not seeing any ads, I'm not triggering any of the other things, but I lack any images or charts which may be in the article. In both cases the website gets no monetary compensation from my visit. Compare this to a non-open website, even if ads and other content is blocked, they still get the paywall fee vs AI providing it to me for free and the website getting nothing.

    As for art and video, artists and creators for decades have been taking (sometimes not insubstantial amounts of) money from people to produce content, often pornographic, of copyrighted property without permission or a license, and often with the use of paid software, but I haven't seen studios and copyright owners sue the creators for taking $xxx to create a pornographic picture of (copyrighted character). AI is just allowing anyone to create content and not just professionals.
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