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It seems the OS from two-generations ago is on its way out.
Windows 7 is here and it's pretty good. If you're a road warrior armed with a netbook, however, it seems that Windows XP is still the choice for those who demand the longest battery life. But Microsoft doesn't foresee that Windows XP will be living much longer on those tiny little laptops.
With Windows 7 being the main product now that Microsoft, it sees little reason to market and push Windows XP as the operating system of choice for netbooks. In fact, instead of pushing the low-cost Windows 7 Starter for netbooks, Microsoft is giving it the full treatment with Home Premium.
The director of netbook PCs in Microsoft's Windows client group, Don Paterson, told The Register in an interview, "We will continue to make Windows XP available for those devices [netbooks], but it doesn't make sense to put marketing effort behind those devices. As much as we make Windows XP available for a year, we won't see it last in the market that long. We will get through the holidays. My gut [feeling] is we will walk away from the holidays and see that it's not worth keeping it in market."
Paterson added that those who "do their homework and understand the value proposition [of Windows 7 Home Premium] will migrate," while those who choose Windows XP are just looking for "absolutely the lowest cost device" or are just resistant to change.
From here on out, it seems that Windows 7 Home Premium is that main choice for nearly all consumer PCs.
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read: stop buying our old refined product we don't make as much money off of and buy the new version that has worse battery life and many many service packs to come.
Resistance to change? Are they forcing us (winXP) to upgrade? Why should I? I would if it's free. I don't need Win7.
read: stop buying our old refined product we don't make as much money off of and buy the new version that has worse battery life and many many service packs to come.
read: I will and will always be an XP user completely ignoring all of the benefits that 7 has to offer.
I still use xp x64. stable and compatible as hell. even got directx11 on it.
"benefits that 7 has to offer" woot? lol!
^^ You can't update beyond direct x 9c on windows xp as far as I'm aware.
I still use xp x64. stable and compatible as hell. even got directx11 on it."benefits that 7 has to offer" woot? lol!
You give 64 bit windows xp 2gb of ram and its ok, you give it 8gb and... its still the same as if you had 2gb - on the other hand if you feed vista or 7 the 8gb it owns, the more you give it, the quicker it gets.
How about trying it one day? you will never go back.
Pffffff sif use xp when you can use windows 3.11 - wwwwaaaaaaayyyyyyyy faster and ligher on the resources
yea lets re-release DOS!! very easy on comp resources
why cant MS make a light version of windows? Apple runs a modified OS X on iphones... so it only seems natural that microsoft could make a netbook capable windows..
yea lets re-release DOS!! very easy on comp resources
its too heavy on resources - the bios is much lighter
XP is less UI bloat. I hate UI bloat.
I still use xp x64. stable and compatible as hell. even got directx11 on it."benefits that 7 has to offer" woot? lol!
x64 XP was crap. I should know, I had a cherry system and suffered with a bug ridden poorly designed OS. XP was fine, but XP 64 gave me quite a few problems.
I mean, X1900XT in crossfire, FX-55 (then later a FX-60 last tribute of 939), 4GB of ram. I much prefered my system on Vista x64.
why cant MS make a light version of windows? Apple runs a modified OS X on iphones... so it only seems natural that microsoft could make a netbook capable windows..
There is a Windows for phones, it's called Windows Mobile, and it does multitasking among other things, unlike the iDon't.
If you are implying that the iPhone is a netbook... well, just look at the specs and capabilities of the OS and draw your own conclusion.
I have XP, Vista and Win7 on my PCs and I have to admit that Win7 is excellent so far. When I use it I don't miss XP a bit.
Wait, XP's UI being bloat free? Memory wise, sure, but that UI is horribly inefficient in terms of actual use.
To the guy claiming to have DX11 on XP, it's not possible to have over DX9 on XP. Yes, I've read up on the little hacking scheme, no they did not successfully do anything other than enabling winXP to run DX10+ on XP - which can still run in DX9.
why cant MS make a light version of windows? Apple runs a modified OS X on iphones... so it only seems natural that microsoft could make a netbook capable windows..
god, Apple won't even make a netbook.
again, how were these battery tests when they turned the 3d desktop off???
either way, I think you'll find XP is more of a resource hog than 95.
its not microsoft's fault that laptop manufactures decided to make antiquated laptops and then sell them as current gen.
Microsoft is doubtful about windows xp.... We're doubtful that microsoft's even making the right decision of putting windows 7 home premium on netbooks
(just my thought)
I still use xp x64. stable and compatible as hell. even got directx11 on it."benefits that 7 has to offer" woot? lol!
Well, I did an upgrade to Win7 to get the 64-bit version and have benefited a lot from it! I like what I see so far, and enjoy the shit out of the 64-bit architecture.
For those still running 32-bit Windows, then 64-bit Windows 7 is a MUST GET upgrade (assuming all is well with the hardware.) In fact, you would be a fool not to.
Windows 7 is alright, although TBH, it doesn't exactly blow me away... Atleast UAC isn't nearly as bad as it was in Vista...
Wait, XP's UI being bloat free? Memory wise, sure, but that UI is horribly inefficient in terms of actual use.
Not free UI bloat, no, only but half as much as Vista/7
Wow resist change... those are words are straight out of Terminator. Haha I wouldnt be surprised if Microsoft did forced us users into an OS that gives them all of our info and internet habits, which im sure is pretty common in Windows 7.
XP is less UI bloat. I hate UI bloat.
8 years ago people like you were saying that about 2000 and XP. They converted eventually and they're the same ones today that are struggling to hold on to XP.
There is nothing bloated about Aero these days... even throw away computers can run Aero without breaking a sweat.
Regardless of the device that is using XP, i.e. netbook, laptop, PC, etc..., W7 should indeed be the main product marketed and used from here on out. Thanks to Vista, XP held on longer than expected market wise. I'm all for change, i.e. new things. Sure, XP has its pluses in terms of simplicity and compatibility for older programs, but eventually we have to move on. To be honest I was never a fan of XP- too simplistic. I ditched XP the second Vista came out in beta and haven't used it since.
If I got a netbook with windows 7 on it, I'd not activate it, steal the key. Use the key on a computer (like my gaming desktop) that would benefit more from it, and put XP (or ubuntu) on the netbook.
Far better use of what's provided.
This debate will go on and on but why can't we just let XP die with dignity. It was, WAS a great OS. It IS currently riddled with security holes that are being patched constantly. Windows Vista had fewer security issues while introducing a much improved UI (sorry, XP's start menu blows and tools that should have been included are not [TweakUI for one]). Windows 7's "bloated UI" is much more manageable than than XP's ever was.
If you don't want to switch don't. But stop complaining about change. It's going to happen whether you like it or not. Be prepared for it or lag behind.
And I expect this to be voted down about a gazillion times. So do your worst.
"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated"
"Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated"
To be honest I was never a fan of XP- too simplistic. I ditched XP the second Vista came out in beta and haven't used it since.
Well said and I did the same. I cannot stand the look of XP, and only use it at work where I am forced to. I always jump on any new OS or software. Sure you get some bugs, but I enjoy the hell out of all of the new goodies that are always included for us consumers who love innovation.
8 years ago people like you were saying that about 2000 and XP. They converted eventually and they're the same ones today that are struggling to hold on to XP.There is nothing bloated about Aero these days... even throw away computers can run Aero without breaking a sweat.
I'm not talking about resource usage, I'm taking about desktop space... wasted pixels. And yes, 8 years ago I did say that, then years after it came out I could afford more realestate. BUT when you open a window on a small monitor (netbook) and all you can see is tool bars and a few files before everything goes off the screen. That's just not cool.
Heck, even on my Desktop (22" square at 1400x1050), Explorer has an inch and a half of useless crap on top before you get to content.
Change. Please let it happen.
XP is a thing from the past - let it go.
I'm not talking about resource usage, I'm taking about desktop space... wasted pixels. And yes, 8 years ago I did say that, then years after it came out I could afford more realestate. BUT when you open a window on a small monitor (netbook) and all you can see is tool bars and a few files before everything goes off the screen. That's just not cool. Heck, even on my Desktop (22" square at 1400x1050), Explorer has an inch and a half of useless crap on top before you get to content.
Then hide the icons. The toolbars. The status bars. Nothing's preventing you from doing that on either XP or 7. If you don't like the fat taskbar, then make it small or auto-hide it.
I too doubt XP has much life left in it... I am not so sure about 7 being the right fit for Netbooks but in time it should be fine (when the hardware catches up) until that time MS should make a light version of 7 or make something new just for low end hardware.

Baring all that a nice light Linux distro works great on low end stuff
What a "surprise", I mean all M$ has to do is stop supporting an 8 year old OS and their "prophecy" becomes self-fulfilling. Besides, it makes sense for them to concentrate on one version rather than having to keep legacy products around. The cry for less demanding software gets less important every-time the hardware gets more powerful.