How about an RTX 4060-Powered Lenovo Legion Slim 5 gaming laptop for under $1000?

As if 4060 wasn't pathetic enough already, its mobile version is even worse - which is a pretty hard feat to achieve! How exactly would any self-respected gamer think that 8 GBs of VRAM are enough for gaming?

valthuer said:

As if 4060 wasn't pathetic enough already, its mobile version is even worse - which is a pretty hard feat to achieve! How exactly would any self-respected gamer think that 8 GBs of VRAM are enough for gaming?

Probably by turning down the settings to high or medium? At least it's better than the 4050 6GB Laptop GPU. :-)

The thing is, when you look at the alternatives (i.e. laptops with integrated graphics that are basically at the level of an RX 6400 — yes, I'm talking about the 780M and Ryzen 7 7840HS, which has the same 12 CUs as the RX 6400, though it uses RDNA 3), and those start at $799, paying $150 extra to get an RTX 4060 Laptop GPU that's roughly triple the performance for graphics isn't a terrible idea.

If you want a decent gaming experience on a laptop, you still need a dedicated GPU. Intel isn't going to change that with Xe-LPG, as that's roughly Arc A380 performance, which is roughly going to be on par with the Radeon 780M.

This is one of the things I find truly frustrating with laptops. There should be models that have a Radeon 780M for at least $250 less than anything with an RTX 4060, but where are those? If one laptop has to include CPU and GPU cooling, and the other only has to deal with a CPU (APU), it should be far less complex and thus less expensive.

Avro Arrow said:

You know, the words "Gaming" and "Laptop" should never go together.

This^^

JarredWaltonGPU said:

Probably by turning down the settings to high or medium? At least it's better than the 4050 6GB Laptop GPU. :)

The thing is, when you look at the alternatives (i.e. laptops with integrated graphics that are basically at the level of an RX 6400 — yes, I'm talking about the 780M and Ryzen 7 7840HS, which has the same 12 CUs as the RX 6400, though it uses RDNA 3), and those start at $799, paying $150 extra to get an RTX 4060 Laptop GPU that's roughly triple the performance for graphics isn't a terrible idea.

If you want a decent gaming experience on a laptop, you still need a dedicated GPU. Intel isn't going to change that with Xe-LPG, as that's roughly Arc A380 performance, which is roughly going to be on par with the Radeon 780M.

This is one of the things I find truly frustrating with laptops. There should be models that have a Radeon 780M for at least $250 less than anything with an RTX 4060, but where are those? If one laptop has to include CPU and GPU cooling, and the other only has to deal with a CPU (APU), it should be far less complex and thus less expensive.

The thing i've always disliked about laptops: when they're used for heavy tasks, such as gaming or video editing, they are bound to generate excessive amounts of heat, which in turn translates into a shorter lifespan.

Way too much money is required for their purchase, and, even if you can afford them, they always lack something, in comparison to their desktop equivalents.

I'm primarily a gamer, and, my short experience of them, has taught me to stay away.

8GB VRAM is fine for entry level gaming, which is what the -60 series is. To brrow a chart from TH's review of the desktop RTX 4060, of which the 4060M is some 10-20% slower than per notebookcheck, it would struggle to reach 1920x1080 60fps outside MMOs and older games, in which case 8GB VRAM is still not an issue.