3 Theories For Why Intel Is Merging Mobile And PC Divisions

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  • TechyInAZ
    Interesting. I didn't realized that Intel is having such a hard time in the ARM/mobile department.

    I wonder what AMD is going to do aswell.
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  • dovah-chan
    AMD has their own ARM architecture actually. But, as of right now, it's only for the server market and they have announced no plans to bring any AMD ARM SoCs to the mobile market.

    Right now the low end mobile market is pretty crowded. You have Intel and ARM chromebooks, low end pentium and AMD kabini APUs making up the low cost windows laptops, and now tablets are starting to cut into laptop revenue.

    I think chromebooks will overtake in the education and business department due to the low cost and small storage making them the optimal solutions for cloud services, but on the consumer front I expect more of the older folk will gravitate towards windows laptops more as chromebooks carry a sort of 'trendy' stigma to them.

    Now while Intel is focusing on gaining ground in the handheld sector, AMD will be sneakily retaking market share for the low end laptops due to the attractively low TDPs and low cost that OEMs will flock to.
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  • InvalidError
    The simplest theory is that it did not really make sense to develop mobile and desktop separately when the bulk of the design effort is common to both.

    When you look at all the design compromises Intel originally made to bring Atom's TDP down and how much of these compromises Intel has had to back-track on to get Atom's performance back up to a reasonable level, I would not be surprised if future Atoms ended up being reduced desktop chips instead of completely separate designs... much the same way Intel decided to re-merge desktop and mobile product lines with Core2 eight years ago.
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  • ldo
    Why on earth are Intel wasting so much time and effort trying to push the x86 architecture into a market that doesn’t want it? Why not use their legendary fab prowess to make ARM chips? Then their mobile division could have shown a profit, for a change.

    But no, the corporate ego seems to be massively strong in this one...
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  • photonboy
    Ido,
    Ego has nothing to do with it. They obviously had a plan though it may not have worked out; hindsight is 20/20 so let's not be quick to judge especially without all the facts.

    And people certainly do want x86 Mobile. Look at what happened when "Windows 8 RT" came out and people discovered their "laptop" had an ARM CPU thus couldn't run any software that wasn't offered through the Microsoft store.

    I for one would like an x86 Windows 10 Tablet which I could use standalone, in a charging dock attached to a monitor, and with a portable keyboard-case to use a netbook.
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  • ldo
    Except the “hindsight” goes back over 6 years, right to the beginnings of Atom. Remember when Intel started that, claiming that only x86 could offer the “Full Internet Experience”, and that Atom was 2 years ahead of ARM?

    So yes, after so many years of failure, you have to admit at some point that it was no longer about any rational “plan”, but purely about “ego” and “stubbornness”.

    No, people do not want x86 in mobile. Tablets running full Windows have been available for about a decade and a half (remember Bill Gates announcing how Windows XP had been designed for tablets?). They never sold well.
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  • benedict78
    Everyone is ignoring the fact that by selling their Atoms for "free" Intel is keeping AMD on the edge of bankrupcy by keeping their mobile chips unsellable. 1B per quarter is a small price to pay for getting rid of your biggest competitor.
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  • aldaia
    14626263 said:
    Everyone is ignoring the fact that by selling their Atoms for "free" Intel is keeping AMD on the edge of bankrupcy by keeping their mobile chips unsellable. 1B per quarter is a small price to pay for getting rid of your biggest competitor.
    Well, the thing is that AMD is not anymore Intel's biggest competitor. Intel's biggest competitors right now are, Qualcom, Samsung and Apple. Intel has big pockets, but Qualcom is not far from intel. Samsung and specially Apple, have way bigger pockets than Intel and they are also big Intel customers, which makes a bad idea to directly confront them.

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  • cypeq
    well mobile consumers aren't at all aware that their devices have processors ;-)
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  • tomfreak
    What Intel & microsoft FAIL to realise that

    1. Chrome OS or Android with x86 wont work = it is a stupid combination.
    2. What both of them need is to sit down and work on a x86 mobile phone on windows. One that is direct replacement of Pentium 3 & 4 machine. That need to tap the x86 windows market. Not anything outside of it.
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