Just when we thought the trail went cold, AMD's upcoming Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX (Storm Peak) has emerged in a new shipping manifest. While there was no indication of an estimated launch date, the fact that the Zen 4-powered chips are in transit suggests they could hit the market soon to compete with the best CPUs for workstations.
The alleged shipping document, courtesy of Harukaze5719, listed the Ryzen Threadripper 7995WX, 7845WX, and 7945WX. The leaked model names cause a bit of confusion, though. The trio of processors seemingly lacks the "Pro" moniker, which AMD utilizes for its workstation parts, such as the current Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WX (Chagall) lineup. On the other hand, the chips carry the "WX" suffix which points to the Pro lineup. It's probably a human error, so in any event, these are the Pro chips that target the workstation market and not the HEDT market.
The next-generation Threadripper processors will wield AMD's latest Zen 4 cores. The leaked information claims that the three Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX processors will find their place in Socket SP6 (LGA4844), a socket expected to accommodate AMD's EPYC Siena chips.
Regarding dimensions, Socket SP6 isn't as big as Socket SP5 (LGA6096) for EPYC Genoa processors. On the contrary, Socket SP6 shares similar dimensions with the older Socket SP3 (LGA4094), which coincidentally houses the current Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WX series.
Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX Specifications*
| Processor | Cores / Threads | TDP (W) | Product ID Tray |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen Threadripper 7995WX | 96 / 192 | 350 | 100-000000884 |
| Ryzen Threadripper 7985WX | 64 / 128 | 350 | 100-000000454 |
| Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX | 64 / 128 | 280 | 100-000000444 |
| Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5975WX | 32 / 64 | 280 | 100-000000445 |
| Ryzen Threadripper 7945WX | 12 / 24 | 350 | 100-000000887 |
| Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5945WX | 12 / 24 | 280 | 100-000000448 |
*Specifications are unconfirmed.
Unfortunately, the leaked specifications don't tell us anything about core counts. However, we can piece that together with previous leaks. The 100-000000884 OPN code had surfaced as early as November 2022 in the Einstein@Home database. The processor, which we now know corresponds to the Ryzen Threadripper 7995WX, reportedly features 96 cores and 192 threads. That would be a massive upgrade since AMD's Threadripper chips have topped at 64 cores for the last two generations. The Ryzen Threadripper 7995WX would be a conflicting SKU, as it would be pushing into EPYC territory.
The Ryzen Threadripper 7985WX has already appeared in several benchmarks, so we know it's a 64-core, 128-thread part. That would mean it's the successor to the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX. We suppose AMD didn't follow the conventional naming scheme to save the 7995WX for the top SKU and probably used the 7985WX for the 64-core part. The Threadripper 7945WX, however, is perhaps the direct replacement for the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5945WX. If that's the case, we're looking at a probable 12-core, 24-thread design as its predecessor.
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According to the document, the Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX processors have a 350W TDP, accounting for a 25% increase over the existing Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WX series. On another note, the Ryzen Threadripper 7000WX's TDP is only 10W lower than the highest-performing 4th-Generation EPYC Genoa chips, lending credence to the Ryzen Threadripper 7995WX potentially having 96 cores.
Noctua plans to release two new CPU air coolers for the next-generation Ryzen Threadripper lineup in October, insinuating that we could see the Zen 4-powered workstation chips on the market very soon.
Zhiye Liu is a news editor, memory reviewer, and SSD tester at Tom’s Hardware. Although he loves everything that’s hardware, he has a soft spot for CPUs, GPUs, and RAM.
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bit_user Wow, 96 cores in a workstation. I'd like to see what people are doing who need such a beast.Reply -
Elusive Ruse Reply
The lines are getting blurry.bit_user said:Wow, 96 cores in a workstation. I'd like to see what people are doing who need such a beast. -
ezst036 Reply
Playing solitaire. :)bit_user said:Wow, 96 cores in a workstation. I'd like to see what people are doing who need such a beast.
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DougMcC Reply
Yeah but that's wasteful because it's really hard to scale solitaire beyond 52 threads.ezst036 said:Playing solitaire. :)
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domih Reply
5 or 6 database servers, a dozen VMs, plus heavy data or ML processes, using non-SMT to not even care about the next zero-day side-channel :)bit_user said:Wow, 96 cores in a workstation. I'd like to see what people are doing who need such a beast. -
bit_user Reply
The thing is, it's a workstation processor/platform, so I wouldn't think things like database servers would tend to factor into the picture.domih said:5 or 6 database servers, a dozen VMs, plus heavy data or ML processes, using non-SMT to not even care about the next zero-day side-channel :)
I'm thinking it's probably people doing compute-intensive processing on really big datasets that wouldn't fit in GPU memory.
I could imagine someone working on compiler development would appreciate the ability to do lightening-fast incremental builds and then run through thousands of regression test cases, but it's a lot of money to spend on a system for software development.
It could also be really good for running EDA simulations, but they might prefer to go one step further and use a 2-CPU Genoa server for that. -
NeoMorpheus Looking forward for Dells fake press release, showing a fake Precision workstation with this chip and then have a permanent “coming soon” sticker.Reply
Meanwhile, their reps will gladly shove a Xeon powered Precision workstation down your throat.
Intel bribe moneis hard at work. -
bit_user Reply
I'd suggest waiting until AMD formally launches these CPUs, before criticizing Dell for not shipping them.NeoMorpheus said:Looking forward for Dells fake press release, showing a fake Precision workstation with this chip and then have a permanent “coming soon” sticker.
Meanwhile, their reps will gladly shove a Xeon powered Precision workstation down your throat.
Intel bribe moneis hard at work.
BTW, Dell takes their time even to start shipping Intel CPUs. My team at work ordered some Precision desktop machines, earlier this year. I think it was March, but it could've been April. Anyway, we asked if we could get them with Raptor Lake CPUs, but they said "not yet" and wouldn't give us an ETA for when they would. A couple months later, they finally added Raptor Lake as an option, but it was too late for us.
Now, it could be that they were dragging their feet because they had lots of Alder Lake CPUs in their inventory, or maybe Intel gave them a really sweet deal on them and they had to move that inventory first. However, it's not the first time I've noticed a substantial lag between a new CPU launching and when Dell starts offering it in their Precision machines. So, even if Dell doesn't have ThreadRipper 7k models available on launch day, that could just be down to Dell's normal lag. -
NeoMorpheus Reply
Sorry my friend, but this is not new from Dell.bit_user said:I'd suggest waiting until AMD formally launches these CPUs, before criticizing Dell for not shipping them.
BTW, Dell takes their time even to start shipping Intel CPUs. My team at work ordered some Precision desktop machines, earlier this year. I think it was March, but it could've been April. Anyway, we asked if we could get them with Raptor Lake CPUs, but they said "not yet" and wouldn't give us an ETA for when they would. A couple months later, they finally added Raptor Lake as an option, but it was too late for us.
Now, it could be that they were dragging their feet because they had lots of Alder Lake CPUs in their inventory, or maybe Intel gave them a really sweet deal on them and they had to move that inventory first. However, it's not the first time I've noticed a substantial lag between a new CPU launching and when Dell starts offering it in their Precision machines. So, even if Dell doesn't have ThreadRipper 7k models available on launch day, that could just be down to Dell's normal lag.
They have done this over and over, since Ryzen launched and i have yet to see one Dell Optiplex or Precision outside of a press release with an AMD cpu. -
bit_user Reply
Here's one that you can order, today:NeoMorpheus said:i have yet to see one Dell Optiplex or Precision outside of a press release with an AMD cpu.
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/precision-7865-tower-workstation/spd/precision-7865-workstation/xctopt7865us_vp
I will point out that, when I selected all Precision and Optiplex models, this was the only one available with an AMD CPU. So, it's certainly not as if they have a wealth of AMD options, but it's more than zero.