AMD Lists Radeon RX 7950 XTX, Other Unreleased Graphics Cards
AMD's ROCm 5.6 lists numerous unannounced Radeon RX 7000-series graphics cards.
AMD has introduced only two RDNA 3-based graphics cards so far, and both are aimed at demanding enthusiasts with deep pockets. While it is obvious that AMD intends to expand its Radeon RX 7000-series with new models, it is unclear what exactly the company is prepping and when. But a newly uncovered AMD ROCm 5.6 pull request noticed by a Reddit user may shed some light on AMD's intentions.
As it turns out, AMD is prepping a bunch of new Radeon RX 7000-series products, including Radeon RX 7950 XTX, 7950 XT, 7800 XT, 7700 XT, 7600 XT, and 7500 XT for desktop computers as well as Radeon RX 7600M XT, 7600M, 7700S, and 7600S for laptops. Several things strike the eye with this list.
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7950 XTX | RDNA3 | gfx1100
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7950 XT | RDNA3 | gfx1100
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 XTX | RDNA3 | gfx1100
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 XT | RDNA3 | gfx1100
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7800 XT | RDNA3 | gfx1101
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7700 XT | RDNA3 | gfx1102
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7600 XT | RDNA3 | gfx1102
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7500 XT | RDNA3 | gfx1102
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7600M XT | RDNA3 | gfx1102
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7600M | RDNA3 | gfx1102
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7700S | RDNA3 | gfx1102
- AMD Radeon™ RX 7600S | RDNA3 | gfx1102
First, it contains the never-before-mentioned Radeon RX 7950 XTX and Radeon RX 7950 XT based on the Navi 31 (gfx1100) graphics processor. Of course, the company already offers Radeon RX 7900 XTX and Radeon RX 7900 XT (which are among the best graphics cards available today), so the 7950 models may be either refreshed versions due at least a couple of quarters down the road or placeholders for potential products should AMD feel that that it needs them. Besides higher clocks, we're not sure what AMD could do to warrant the model number bump. (Well, it could double down on the stacked cache on the MCD as one potential option.)
The pull request also includes Radeon RX 7800 XT based on gfx1101. We assume that's a Navi 32 GPU, but it could be something else. There's no sign of a vanilla Radeon RX 7800 as yet, and so far this is the only gfx1101 GPU. That's a bit odd, but let's move on for now. The list indicates that Navi 33 (or gfx1102) will power everything from the performance-mainstream Radeon RX 7700 XT down to the entry-level Radeon RX 7500 XT. But again, there are no mentions of non-XT versions.
To put it into context, AMD used Navi 22 exclusively for its Radeon RX 6700-series desktop graphics cards, plus the Radeon RX 6700M and Radeon RX 6800M laptop GPUs. Apparently, Navi 32 will be used in only select products. That or AMD has other plans that aren't yet clear. Navi 23 meanwhile was used in the RX 6600-series (RX 6600, RX 6600 XT, and RX 6650 XT), along with mobile variants. Navi 33 is rumored to be a monolithic die, and it looks like its use will cover both entry-level (RX 7500) through mainstream (RX 7600/7700) parts.
AMD has yet to comment on the list of graphics cards in the ROCm 5.6 list. Meanwhile, it should be noted that while the list indicates AMD's intentions to release certain products, it does not mean that they are coming overnight. Furthermore, their specifications remain a mystery for now — it's a safe bet that each step down the list (at least on the desktop parts) will come with reduced GPU shader counts, but we don't know clocks, memory bus width, or cache sizes.
The memory bus in particular is going to be a contentious issue. AMD has made a lot of noise about how Nvidia is shipping "limited" GPUs with less than 16GB of memory, while AMD has the RX 6800 through RX 6950 XT that all come with 16GB, plus the newer RX 7900 XTX/XT with 24GB/20GB of VRAM. The 7900 series parts have 320-bit and 384-bit interfaces provided by five or six MCDs — check our RDNA 3 deep dive for additional information on the chiplet architecture. If Navi 32 has a 256-bit interface, it will likely top out at 16GB for consumer cards, but more likely than not we'll see Navi 33 with 192-bit or even 128-bit interfaces. Those would top out at 12GB and 8GB, respectively, unless AMD decides to put VRAM on both sides of the PCB.
Anyway, we'll know more for certain in the coming months. There are still plenty of RX 6000-series cards in stock, which is likely why AMD hasn't pushed out lower tier RX 7000-series GPUs yet. If RX 7800 XT and RX 7700 XT are coming soon, it could mean AMD has finally managed to clear out most of its RDNA 2 inventory.
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Secondly, the pull request includes Radeon RX 7800 XT based on the Navi 31 GPU, but there is no sign of a vanilla Radeon RX 7800.
Make some corrections in your article. RX 7800XT is based on NAVI 32, and the remaining mainstream cards will sport NAVI 33 GPU core.
The AMD RDNA 3 GPU portfolio actually is based on three main chips, the Navi 31, Navi 32, and Navi 33.
The Navi 31 GPU is the "GFX1100" and codenamed Plum Bonito, the Navi 32 GPUs are mentioned under "GFX1101" and codenamed Wheat Nas, while the Navi 33 GPUs are designated as "GFX1102" and codenamed Hotpink Bonefish. What funny names by the way.
There's also a GFX1103 design which is aimed at integrated IPs such as APUs, unless I'm mistaken.
Radeon RX 7950 XTX RDNA3 gfx1100 (Navi 31)Radeon RX 7950 XT RDNA3 gfx1100 (Navi 31)Radeon RX 7900 XT| RDNA3 gfx1100 (Navi 31)Radeon RX 7900 XT RDNA3 gfx1100 (Navi 31)Radeon RX 7800 XT RDNA3 gfx1101 (Navi 32)Radeon RX 7700 XT RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)Radeon RX 7600 XT RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)Radeon RX 7500 XT RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)Radeon RX 7600M XT RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)Radeon RX 7600M RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)Radeon RX 7700S RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)Radeon RX 7600S RDNA3 gfx1102 (Navi 33)It's odd that only one AMD Navi 32 GPU exists but it is also likely that AMD will position its Navi 32 chips as the flagship mobility offerings, which might explain its limited nature on the desktop front.
Non-XT models are also likely to appear sooner or later. -
Eximo
Been thinking about that. They have easy chances for name confusion if they don't give the XT branding to all cards.Metal Messiah. said:Non-XT models are also likely to appear sooner or later.
As you can imagine, marketing a computer with a Ryzen 5 7600 and an RX 7600 would be perhaps a little misleading. Not that adding XT makes it much better, but at least it doesn't appear in the CPU names (And that is precisely when AMD will launch a R9-7950XT to make this wrong) -
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Thanks. Wanted to post this, but you already did.Metal Messiah. said:Make some corrections in your article. RX 7800XT is based on NAVI 32, and the remaining mainstream cards will sport NAVI 33 GPU core.
However, this lineup doesn't make sense to me, at least with the 7700 XT. In most likelihood, based on rumours and current RDNA 3 cards, Navi 33 will be slower than Navi 22. Therefore having a 7700 XT based on Navi 33 doesn't make sense. It also means that Navi 32 won't have a lower end SKU, which is problematic for yields.
My thought is that it's either a typo or, as someone speculated on the Reddit thread, a placeholder for the real list. -
mrv_co Confidence is low at this point, but I'd love to see a compelling 7700 XT to replace my 5700 XT.Reply -
Colif I assume there will be more, they won't only refresh the top level cards. True, they need to release the first gen of everything below a 7900xt firstReply
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ohio_buckeye I could see it like this.Reply
7500=6gb
7600=8gb
7700=10gb
7800=12gb probably 16 though
And on up the stack. Maybe trying to compete with the 4090?
Seems like they should put some effort into professional cards though. -
hannibal ET3D said:Thanks. Wanted to post this, but you already did.
However, this lineup doesn't make sense to me, at least with the 7700 XT. In most likelihood, based on rumours and current RDNA 3 cards, Navi 33 will be slower than Navi 22. Therefore having a 7700 XT based on Navi 33 doesn't make sense. It also means that Navi 32 won't have a lower end SKU, which is problematic for yields.
My thought is that it's either a typo or, as someone speculated on the Reddit thread, a placeholder for the real list.
I agree with this. It would be strange if there would be only one GPU using navi32 (7800 XT)
Unless navi32 is found out to be useless in which case it could be possible that they will newer put 7800XT to the market and just move 7700xt to tier below and use the best navi33.
But if navi 32 come to the market it does need cut down option.... And it has to be 7700xt or 7800 non xt. -
hannibal ohio_buckeye said:I could see it like this.
7500=6gb
7600=8gb
7700=10gb
7800=12gb probably 16 though
And on up the stack. Maybe trying to compete with the 4090?
Seems like they should put some effort into professional cards though.
It depends on how they cut the die... But if 7700 use navi 33, the max is 8Gb...
If it is cut down navi32, then who knows.
Do we have any info about navi32. Memory bus?
I am very doubtful about anything considering navi32 at this moment... They could drop it out completely in this generation. -
ohio_buckeye True. They seem to have stock of last gen cards. Perhaps they want to sell through those first?Reply