Intel's 7nm is Broken, Company Announces Delay Until 2022, 2023

250

(Image credit: Tom's Hardware)
Paul Alcorn
Editor-in-Chief

Paul Alcorn is the Editor-in-Chief for Tom's Hardware US. He also writes news and reviews on CPUs, storage, and enterprise hardware.

  • Dave Haynie
    Yikes! Intel bugged their 10nm process long enough to fall behind, despite probably having the best 14nm process around. Full control of process was Intel's superpower, going back to the CISC vs RISC wars of the 1980s-1990s. Kind of a shame... though I've had AMD in this horse-race for quite some time. But I pretty much always like the underdog!
    Reply
  • InvalidError
    A couple years ago when 10nm was slipping, Intel said the lessons it'll learn in pushing ahead with 10nm despite setbacks would be useful for pushing 7nm afterward. However, Intel still hasn't fully sorted 10nm out and I'm guessing that some of the lessons learned don't port over to 7nm quite as well as Intel hoped they would.

    Looks like Intel may not have much for people to get excited about until 2022.
    Reply
  • passivecool
    poor intel. slept for ten years then woke up with a hangover.
    Reply
  • JamesSneed
    InvalidError said:
    A couple years ago when 10nm was slipping, Intel said the lessons it'll learn in pushing ahead with 10nm despite setbacks would be useful for pushing 7nm afterward. However, Intel still hasn't fully sorted 10nm out and I'm guessing that some of the lessons learned don't port over to 7nm quite as well as Intel hoped they would.

    Looks like Intel may not have much for people to get excited about until 2022.

    I think moving to EUV is a huge change and they are having a hard time getting the yields up on EUV. They were being too optimistic once again. You know this is why TSMC did the initial 7nm where only some up front processes were 7nm rest was 12-14nm. Then they improved that process my having more processes use 7nm. Now TSMC are using EUV for 5nm. This is the lesson Intel needs to learn, baby steps on node improvements going forward so its small evolutionary steps not revolutionary steps. Things are way to freaking complicated now to make big leaps. This is why TSMC is ahead now. This is the missing lesson.
    Reply
  • Kamen Rider Blade
    Dave Haynie said:
    I think moving to EUV is a huge change and they are having a hard time getting the yields up on EUV. They were being too optimistic once again. You know this is why TSMC did the initial 7nm where only some up front processes were 7nm rest was 12-14nm. Then they improved that process. Now TSMC are using EUV for 5nm. This is the lesson Intel needs to learn, baby steps on node improvements going forward so its small evolutionary steps not revolutionary steps. Things are way to freaking complicated now to make big leaps. This is why TSMC is ahead now. This is the missing lesson.
    Remember the 'Children's Fable/Story' of the "Tortoise & the Hare"?
    Slow & steady wins the race!

    TSMC, was improving incrementally, while Intel decided to shoot for as far as they can like Icarus.

    We all know what happened to Icarus wings.
    Reply
  • RobertCharon
    InvalidError said:
    A couple years ago when 10nm was slipping, Intel said the lessons it'll learn in pushing ahead with 10nm despite setbacks would be useful for pushing 7nm afterward. However, Intel still hasn't fully sorted 10nm out and I'm guessing that some of the lessons learned don't port over to 7nm quite as well as Intel hoped they would.

    Looks like Intel may not have much for people to get excited about until 2022.

    Listening to Intel 2Q Earnings Conference...
    Intel is touting that they have the most technically advanced packaging technology... While their new 7nm process is technically screwed.
    I could be wrong but that seems like wrong priorities </s>
    Ridiculous!
    Reply
  • RobertCharon
    Listening to Q&A now.

    Wow, that was some BS response from Swan (Intel CEO).
    I guess that was expected from an MBA instead of an engineer.
    Reply
  • Makaveli
    hmm ya I guess time to buy more AMD stock lol
    Reply
  • Kamen Rider Blade
    RobertCharon said:
    Listening to Q&A now.

    Wow, that was some BS response from Swan (Intel CEO).
    I guess that was expected from an MBA instead of an engineer.
    I think Intel shot themselves in the foot when they fired Brian Krzanich from the CEO position.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Krzanich
    Brian Krzanich was a Chemistry Major and worked as a process engineer in Intel's Fab's.
    He worked his way up to CEO position, but he's still a Chemistry guy at the core.

    Far more useful then Bob Swan who's just a glorified Middle Manager with a MBA degree.
    Reply
  • thisisaname
    InvalidError said:
    However, Intel still hasn't fully sorted 10nm out and I'm guessing that some of the lessons learned don't port over to 7nm quite as well as Intel hoped they would.
    When they say lessons learned you can be pretty sure they are not going to be.
    Reply