Yes, Samsung Is Swapping SSD Parts Too

Samsung 970 Evo Plus
Samsung 970 Evo Plus (Image credit: Tom's Hardware)

Samsung is the latest SSD vendor to be caught with its hand in the cookie jar. A Chinese YouTuber is claiming Samsung has swapped components on its 970 Evo Plus SSD, one of the best SSDs on the market right now.

It's not that component swapping wasn't a thing prior to the pandemic. With the global semiconductor shortage, it just became a more common practice now. SSD vendors, including Adata, Patriot, Crucial and Western Digital have switched parts from some of their drives.

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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    So the $145 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB, in the article



    Vs my $300 Samsung 960 Pro 1TB

    $300 well spent...
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  • cryoburner
    Although the new version's SLC cache is 173% bigger, it offers 47% lower sustained write performance.
    I suspect this is a dynamic cache that shrinks as the drive is filled though? The cache size and performance described here might be accurate when the drive is mostly empty, but how do they compare when the drive is mostly full? I doubt most people are going to get a 1TB SSD just to leave most of that capacity unused, so knowing the performance when the drives are at least three-quarters full would probably be more meaningful, especially if the available cache shrinks considerably under that more realistic usage scenario.

    Also, I wouldn't exactly say the component swap was "done right". They might have updated the 12-character part number and spec sheet, but how many people are going to read those? Many retailers probably won't even list that information, just selling the new part in place of the old one. The best way to do this would be to change the actual model number, like call it the 975 Evo Plus or something, so that people are not referencing reviews for an entirely different product when making their purchasing decisions.
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  • vern72
    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    So the $145 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB, in the article

    Vs my $300 Samsung 960 Pro 1TB

    $300 well spent...

    At least your 960 PRO will outlast the 970 Evo Plus because of MLC (with two bits, not three!)
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  • USAFRet
    vern72 said:
    outlast
    I've asked in here many times...
    "Has anyone ever, in normal consumer use, had an SSD die from too many write cycles?"
    Ever?

    So far, not a one.

    Further:
    "Has anyone exceeded the warranty TBW on their drive?"

    Again, crickets.


    600TBW vs 1200TBW is irrelevant if you only get to 100TBW in a decade (5 years past the warranty age out number)
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  • btmedic04
    vern72 said:
    At least your 960 PRO will outlast the 970 Evo Plus because of MLC (with two bits, not three!)

    My 2tb 970 Evo Plus is 14 months old and at my current usage, the TLC will last a little over 83 years until I hit my TBW limit.... this is at about 39.5gb written per day
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  • USAFRet
    btmedic04 said:
    My 2tb 970 Evo Plus is 14 months old and at my current usage, the TLC will last a little over 83 years until I hit my TBW limit.... this is at about 39.5gb written per day
    All 7 of my SSDs combined (some of them going back to 2014 in 24/7 use) don't come up to 1/3 of the warranty TBW of the C drive, a 500GB 850 EVO.
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  • btmedic04
    USAFRet said:
    All 7 of my SSDs combined (some of them going back to 2014 in 24/7 use) don't come up to 1/3 of the warranty TBW of the C drive, a 500GB 860 EVO.

    oh yeah. its incredibly difficult for an average user to hit TBW limits. Ill have to run the smart on it, but I recently got my 80gb intel x25-m returned to me that I had put into a pc I had built for my grandma (after 6 years as my primary drive.) That drive is 12 years old and I believe the intel app said it had something like 98% life remaining lol
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    vern72 said:
    At least your 960 PRO will outlast the 970 Evo Plus because of MLC (with two bits, not three!)

    In 3 years it's had 8TB written to it, it's my dedicated games drive and games really don't write except for updates. In 4 years my 960 Pro 512GB has had 44TB written, as it's my OS drive...At 400TBW for the 512gb and 800TBW for the 1TB, NVMe will be replaced by a new interface standard, or the drive will die, before I get near those.
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  • cryoburner
    Many of these drives will be capable of exceeding their TBW rating by a fairly wide margin too. That's just what the manufacturer guarantees, not necessarily a hard limit, much like how a drive is likely to last much longer than its 5 year warranty.

    Some manufacturers do lock them down though. I know Intel was one to do that, putting a drive into read-only mode when it hit its TBW limit, though I don't know if they still do that on their consumer drives.
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    Reminds me of this ancient article from TTR, where a Samsung 840 Pro passed 2PBW before dying.

    The SSD Endurance Experiment: They're all dead - The Tech Report
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