Alleged Ryzen 8000G APU Details Leak: Zen 4, Zen 4c, and RDNA 3

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AMD to use both Phoenix and Phoenix 2 APUs for AM5 platforms.

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The first details about AMD's upcoming Ryzen 8000G-series accelerated processing units (APUs) for desktops have leaked. They indicate that the company looks set to use both high-performance Phoenix processors based on Zen 4 cores and compact Phoenix 2 silicon featuring Zen 4 and Zen 4c cores. Based on leaked information from HKEPC, AMD is set to offer at least four Ryzen 8000G APUs for midrange and entry level desktops.

AMD's next-generation desktop APU will include four models, Ryzen 3 8300G, Ryzen 5 8500G, Ryzen 5 8600G, and Ryzen 7 8700G, according to data from AGESA Combo AM5 PI 1.1.0.0 firmware. Keep in mind that the information comes from unofficial source, so take it with a pinch of salt.

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ModelSiliconx86 Core ConfigGPUGPU ConfigTDP
Ryzen 7 8700GPhoenix8C/16T | 8x Zen 4Radeon 780M12 CU | 768 SPs65W
Ryzen 5 8600GPhoenix6C/12T | 6x Zen 4Radeon 760M8 CU | 512 SPs65W
Ryzen 5 8500GPhoenix 26C/12T | 2x Zen 4 + 4x Zen 4cRadeon 740M3 CU | 256 SPs65W
Ryzen 3 8300GPhoenix 24C/8T | 1x Zen 4 + 3x Zen 4cRadeon 740M4 CU | 256 SPs65W

The Ryzen 3 8300G and Ryzen 5 8500G models claim to be based on AMD's Phoenix 2 silicon with up to 6 cores and Radeon 740M graphics whereas the Ryzen 5 8600G and Ryzen 7 8700G are expected to use the more expensive Phoenix with up to eight Zen 4 cores and Radeon 780M graphics. The latter will naturally offers higher performance both for general-purpose computing and for graphics. In addition, Phoenix integrates Ryzen AI accelerator for machine learning workloads.

As for the launch timeframe of AMD's Ryzen 8000G, insiders reportedly told HKEPC that AMD has yet to finalize its release schedule and communicate it to its partners. At present, it is suggested that the company could release its next-generation desktop APUs either late this year or potentially early in 2024.

Considering the fact that AMD tends to unveil new products at CES, it is likely that the new Ryzen 8000G will be formally introduce in early 2024. This scenario looks logical as if AMD planned to release all-new AM5 APUs this year, its partners would be plenty of Ryzen 8000G samples.

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Anton Shilov
Anton Shilov
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

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  • Order 66
    If we ever have another GPU shortage as bad as the last one, these will be great for gaming. I am still waiting for normal ryzen 8000 leaks though. I predict that the normal ryzen 7 8600x will have a 5Ghz+ base clock.
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    I guess that AMD is going to wait for Intel to be the first ones to bring out an APU with on board HBM, because I still haven't seen a road map with it on there and Intel already has experience with the HBM equipped Xeons.
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  • atomicWAR
    Order 66 said:
    If we ever have another GPU shortage as bad as the last one, these will be great for gaming. I am still waiting for normal ryzen 8000 leaks though. I predict that the normal ryzen 7 8600x will have a 5Ghz+ base clock.
    With the popularity of things like the steam deck and all the various portable gaming PCs, in concert with the popularity/interest in Nintendo Switch 1/2, I believe we'll see a lot more titles aiming for iGPU gaming at reasonable frame rates. So APUs like these could well grab a good portion of the gaming market at the lower end and portable gaming. Nvidia certainly hasn't been helping the space in the discrete market, side eyes 40 series GPUs with their price and performance increases or lack there of as you move down the stack. And AMD was equally as bad playing along with the launch prices.

    Having options in the case of another GPU shortage sounds nice but I worry they will ultimately fall short. I do have the worry that even APUs will be targeted. Every time the gaming market thinks they have found a fix for issues like this, some company (or country) finds a new killer use/app that uses the 'new' parts and we are right back where we were. I could see where desperate AI start-ups grab APUs in another crunch scenario. I knew issues like this would become more and more problematic way back when governemts started using networked consoles as computers back in the PS2 (?, Iraq rumored to use them in clusters)/XB360/PS3 eras. Though I truly hope I am wrong....it would be nice if PC gamers had at least one 'safe' market they could depend on like the days before CUDA (in Nvidia's case)...
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  • palladin9479
    The Ryzen 5 8600G and 8500G look very interesting, especially paired with good DDR5 memory. These aren't so much for regular ATX gaming rigs but are amazing for HTPC or mini-ITX living room gaming PC's, the kind that closely resemble consoles. Something that we would stick into this kind of case that blends with whatever aesthetic we're going for in the living room.

    https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/Chopin_Pro
    As nice as "FULL RGB!!!!!" is in a PC room, it's ugly and distracting in a living / media room.
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  • TerryLaze
    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    I guess that AMD is going to wait for Intel to be the first ones to bring out an APU with on board HBM, because I still haven't seen a road map with it on there and Intel already has experience with the HBM equipped Xeons.
    Doubtful, intel will not waste expensive hardware on cheap CPUs.
    It might happen for a special project like the laptop CPU intel did with an AMD GPU, but only if there is a customer that will pre buy a good bunch of them.
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