Ryzen Above: Best Memory Settings for AMD's 3000 CPUs, Tested

AMD set the memory spec for Ryzen 3000 at DDR4-3200. But any reviewer or enthusiast worth their salt is going to settle for the base spec, because we know there’s always more to the story. While the base line might be what the company recommends, there's certainly more performance to be attained with the right kit, especially when many motherboards boast supported speeds well above 4,000 MHz.

And of course, performance is about much more than just frequency. Several of our readers for example have stated that DDR4-3200 CAS 14 and DDR4-3600 CAS16 are approximate equals, but that just sounds like another generalized rule. How much truth is behind these claims, and how much farther can an average performance PC builder push their performance by tweaking timings and settings?

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Thomas Soderstrom is a Senior Staff Editor at Tom's Hardware US. He tests and reviews cases, cooling, memory and motherboards.
  • drivinfast247
    3600mhz is the sweet spot for 3000 series Ryzen.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    So another test I want to see with ryzen 3000, faster speed ram with loose timings, or slower speed ram with tight timings.
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  • Soaptrail
    So we should get 4x8GB RAM for Ryzen? I see on the reviews for Ryzen 3, the official support for 4 dimms at dual rank is only 2667. Can anyone confirm is it easy or hard to buy 4x8GB of dual rank and use it at 3600? i will do it but if it is a lottery of working or not I want to know.

    I have been building PC's for years but I never really got into overclocking other than XMP profiles. So i am willing to do this if it is easy enough to succeed. Thanks to anyone who helps explain this to me. I enjoyed this article but it was not as noob friendly as I needed.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    Ryzen is dual channel only.

    Just get 2x16gb and it will be more compatable and have better performance.
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  • salgado18
    remixislandmusic said:
    Ryzen is dual channel only.

    Just get 2x16gb and it will be more compatable and have better performance.
    Care to show the tests to support your claim that 2x16 is faster than 4x8? Because the article you're replying to did just that, and proved the opposite.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    Traditionally when running 4 sticks in 2 channels, you are usually forcing the command rate to 2T rather than 1T, making the ram latency worse.

    Heres what the article says:
    "Command rate is the number of cycles a command must be presented before a memory operation commences, so that 2T incurs an additional cycle of latency to every memory access. It makes sense that most people would shoot for 1T, except that higher data rates often make this unworkable, particularly when more ranks of memory are used (ie, two “double-sided” or four “single-sided” DIMMs). The reason that we’ve used only half of our four-DIMM kit thus far is that it won’t run all four DIMMs at DDR4-3600 and 1T, hence you’ll want to see the penalty of 2T before we add four-DIMM configurations to the mix."
    I see no way for 4 sticks to be faster as they have no more bandwidth than 2 sticks. If you look at the far right 2, you see the performance is roughly the same, which is very surprising. I have seen 4x8gb would have less compatability with ryzen in the past, but not sure of now.

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  • CheckDM
    Hmm. This throws a curveball in my upcoming build, because I already want 32GB.


    I was simply going to go 2x16 with "Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16" (CMK32GX4M2B3200C16) for $155.
    But now I'm thinking I should go with a 4x8G with "CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200" (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) for a total of $140.

    The 4x8 config is a little cheaper, and according to this article using 4 sockets is possibly better.


    (However, the QVL sheet for my chosen motherboard, Gigabyte X570 Auros Elite, supports the 2x16 but the ram selected for 4x8 is only supported in 2x8. So this might be the overriding factor.)
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  • Z1NONLY
    4 single rank sticks allow the controller to interleave the ram, making it faster than two single rank sticks. I have experienced this in my own 3800x build. Both time spy physics and shadow of the tombraider did better with 4 sticks of ram.

    As the article points out, with 4 sticks an operation can start on one rank while another has not yet finished on the other...and this is on each of the channels.

    My TS physics score was ~10300 with two sticks and ~10700 with four.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    Z1NONLY said:
    4 single rank sticks allow the controller to interleave the ram, making it faster than two single rank sticks. I have experienced this in my own 3800x build. Both time spy physics and shadow of the tombraider did better with 4 sticks of ram.

    As the article points out, with 4 sticks an operation can start on one rank while another has not yet finished on the other...and this is on each of the channels.

    My TS physics score was ~10300 with two sticks and ~10700 with four.
    That makes sense.
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  • Crashman
    Soaptrail said:
    So we should get 4x8GB RAM for Ryzen? I see on the reviews for Ryzen 3, the official support for 4 dimms at dual rank is only 2667. Can anyone confirm is it easy or hard to buy 4x8GB of dual rank and use it at 3600? i will do it but if it is a lottery of working or not I want to know.

    I have been building PC's for years but I never really got into overclocking other than XMP profiles. So i am willing to do this if it is easy enough to succeed. Thanks to anyone who helps explain this to me. I enjoyed this article but it was not as noob friendly as I needed.
    You should get four ranks of 8GB. The article says it doesn't matter if it's four single-rank or two dual-rank DIMMs.

    CheckDM said:
    Hmm. This throws a curveball in my upcoming build, because I already want 32GB.


    I was simply going to go 2x16 with "Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16" (CMK32GX4M2B3200C16) for $155.
    But now I'm thinking I should go with a 4x8G with "CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200" (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16) for a total of $140.

    The 4x8 config is a little cheaper, and according to this article using 4 sockets is possibly better.


    (However, the QVL sheet for my chosen motherboard, Gigabyte X570 Auros Elite, supports the 2x16 but the ram selected for 4x8 is only supported in 2x8. So this might be the overriding factor.)
    Maybe I should repeat the above statement from the article body in its conclusion ;)
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