Intel Xeon E5-2600 V3 Review: Haswell-EP Redefines Fast
Haswell-EP Evolves The Server And Workstation
The night Chris Angelini was writing his review of the Core i7-4770K for Tom's Hardware and I was doing the same, we both reached similar conclusions: Haswell on the desktop is not a big deal. But Haswell-EP is a completely different story. Intel uses its advanced manufacturing to enable more cores, more cache, and a redesigned memory controller able to support DDR4. All of that comes together to yield a big step up compared to Ivy Bridge-EP. When you consider that these CPUs replace parts in servers with four to eight cores, the potential gains are substantial. Delivering twice the performance in a similar form factor makes it easy for any business to at least consider consolidating their hardware infrastructure.
When it comes to power consumption, we already know that Haswell was designed to service the mobile space. This has some favorable implications in the server world too. Of course, the difference is that Haswell-EP-based CPUs are much larger (and multiplied in a dual-socket configuration), so all gains are amplified.
In terms of performance per core, unless your software is optimized to exploit AVX 2.0, Haswell's biggest benefits come from the architecture's inherent IPC tweaks. Where Haswell-EP really shines is its higher core counts that help scale performance accordingly in well-parallelized workloads.
DDR4 memory support is perhaps the most next-generation aspect of Intel's new Xeon E5-2600 v3 processors. In time, we will likely see higher data rates, increased density, and potentially lower-power versions of the standard. Unlike DDR3, DDR4 is still supply-constrained, so new servers are going to be priced higher until memory vendors catch up. Right now, the market is split. Most consumer devices are tied to DDR3; Haswell-E/EP is the first design pushing DDR4. That'll change slowly. But for now, there are quantifiable power and performance benefits to justify the eventual adoption of a what currently appears to be a ridiculously expensive technology.
Reflecting on the press day that Intel hosted to introduce Haswell-EP, higher core counts, DDR4, and advanced ISA support were the most obvious platform changes. But the company's Fortville adapters are arguably even more exciting to me. The doors opened by a low-power controller capable of two 40 GbE interfaces or eight 10 Gb links cannot be ignored. I have been using Mellanox ConnectX-3 VPI adapters for quite some time in 40 Gb Ethernet mode. But the power consumption benefits of Intel's technology compelled me to go out and buy a new 40 Gb Ethernet switch.
Truly, this is the march of progress. More IPC throughput, a greater number of cores, more memory, and beefier I/O to exploit the platform's bolstered data handling capabilities translate to further consolidation of workloads. Intel is clearly driving towards a software-defined vision and takes a major step toward that goal with its Xeon E5-2600 v3 introduction. Then again, the way Intel presents its strategy addresses a more complete datacenter solution. Much like HP, Intel no longer pitches the Xeon as a new, faster processor on its own (even if it is). Instead, the company has a holistic goal for driving compute, storage, and networking performance over the next few years. Haswell-EP is the showcase for that.
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CaptainTom Wonder how long it is until 18-core CPU's are utilized well in games...Maybe 2018 or 2020?Reply -
dovah-chan Captain Tom said:Wonder how long it is until 18-core CPU's are utilized well in games...Maybe 2018 or 2020?
Actually we should be trying to move away from traditional serial-styled processing and move towards parallel processing. Each core can handle only one task at a time and only utilize it's own resources by itself.
This is unlike a GPU, where many processors utilize the same resources and perform multiple tasks at the same time. The problem is that this type of architecture is not supported at all in CPUs and Nvidia is looking for people to learn to program for parallel styled architectures.
But this lineup of CPUs is clearly a marvel of engineering and hard work. Glad to see the server industry will truly start to benefit from the low power and finely-tuned abilities of haswell along with the recently introduced DDR4 which is optimized for low power usage as well. This, combined along with flash-based storage (aka SSDs) which also have lower power drain than the average HDD, will slash through server power bills and save companies literally billions of dollars. Technology is amazing isn't it? -
2Be_or_Not2Be There is still a lot in games that doesn't translate well into parallel processing. A lot of gaming action only happens as a direct result of the user's input, and it usually triggers items that are dependent upon the results from another item. So parallel processing doesn't help a lot there; single-threaded performance helps more.Reply
However, with multiple cores, now we can have better AI and other "off-screen" items that don't necessarily always depend upon the user's direct input. There's still a lot of work to be done there, though. -
2Be_or_Not2Be The new Haswell-EP Xeons are definitely going to help with virtualization. However, I see the high-price of DDR4 and the relative scarcity of it now as being a bit of a handicap to fast adoption, especially since that is one of the major limiting factors to how many servers you can virtualize.Reply
I think all of the major server vendors are going to suck up all of the major memory manufacturers DDR4 capacity for a while before the prices go down. -
balister The new Haswell-EP Xeons are definitely going to help with virtualization. However, I see the high-price of DDR4 and the relative scarcity of it now as being a bit of a handicap to fast adoption, especially since that is one of the major limiting factors to how many servers you can virtualize.
I think all of the major server vendors are going to suck up all of the major memory manufacturers DDR4 capacity for a while before the prices go down.
Whether it helps or hinders will ultimately depend on the VM admin. What most VM admins don't realize is that HT can actually end up degrading performance in virtual environments unless the VM admin took specific steps to use HT properly (and most do not). A lot of companies will tell you to turn off HT to increase performance because they've dealt with a lot of VM admins that don't set things up properly (a lot of VM admins over allocate which is part of the reason using HT can degrade performance, but there are other settings as well that have to be set in the Hypervisor so that the guest VMs get the resources they need). -
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This is easier said than done since there are tons of everyday algorithms, such as text/code parsing, that are fundamentally incompatible with threading. If you want to build a list or tree using threads, you usually need to split the operation to let each thread work in isolated parts of the list/tree so they do not trip over each other and waste most of their time waiting on mutexes and at the end of the build process, you have a merge process to bring everything back together which is usually not very thread-friendly if you want it to be efficient.14133592 said:Actually we should be trying to move away from traditional serial-styled processing and move towards parallel processing. Each core can handle only one task at a time and only utilize it's own resources by itself.
In many cases, trying to convert algorithms to threads is simply more trouble than it is worth. -
Rob Burns Great to see these processors out, and overall good article. I only wish you used the same benchmark suite you had for the Haswell-E processors: 3DS Max, Adobe Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop. I'd also love to see Vray added to the mix. Not much useful benchmark data in here for 3D professionals. Some good detail on the processors themselves however.Reply -
Drejeck Wonder how long it is until 18-core CPU's are utilized well in games...Maybe 2018 or 2020?
Simply never.
A game is made by sound, logic and graphics. You may dedicate this 3 processes to a number of cores but they remain 3. As you split load some of the logic must recall who did what and where. Logic deals mainly with FPU units, while graphics with integers. GPUs are great integers number crunchers. They have to be fed by the CPU so an extra core manage data through different memories, this is where we start failing. Keeping all in one spot, with the same resources reduces need to transfer data. By implementing a whole processor with GPU, FPU, x86 and sound processor all in one package with on board memory makes for the ultimate gaming processor. As long as we render scenes with triangles we will keep using the legacy stuff. When the time will come to render scenes by pixel we will need a fraction of today's performance, and half of the texture memory (just scale the highest quality) and half of models memory. Epic is already working on that.
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pjkenned Great to see these processors out, and overall good article. I only wish you used the same benchmark suite you had for the Haswell-E processors: 3DS Max, Adobe Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop. I'd also love to see Vray added to the mix. Not much useful benchmark data in here for 3D professionals. Some good detail on the processors themselves however.
Great points. One minor complication is that the NVIDIA GeForce Titan used in the Haswell-E review would not have fit in the 1U servers (let alone be cooled well by then.) Onboard Matrox G200eW graphics are too much of a bottleneck for the standard test suite.
On the other hand, this platform is going to be used primarily in servers. Although there are some really nice workstation options coming, we did not have access in time for testing.
One plus is that you can run the tests directly on your own machine by booting to a Ubuntu 14.04 LTS LiveCD, and issuing three commands. There is a video and the three simple commands here: http://linux-bench.com/howto.html That should give you a rough idea in terms of performance of your system compared to the test systems.
Hopefully we will get some workstation appropriate platforms in the near future where we can run the standard set of TH tests. Thanks for your feedback since it is certainly on the radar.