PowerColor LCS AXR9 290X: Water Makes Hawaii Comfortable
AMD’s Radeon R9 290X is an incredibly powerful gaming card. Unfortunately, the company's cheap cooling solution results in inconsistent performance and excessive noise. PowerColor’s liquid-cooled LCS AXR9 290X is set to solve both issues with finesse.
Overclocking
Extensive testing shows that AMD necessarily sacrifices performance in order to force the fan to operate at or below specific rotational speed (almost certainly to guarantee a certain "quality" of experience). Should the Hawaii GPU heat up beyond the fan's ability to maintain safe operating temperatures, the card will increase fan speed even more to keep pace.
The company's stock cooling solution can keep temperatures low enough to allow for overclocking, but only if you're willing to accept louder-than-stock noise levels. Overclocking tools offer different types of fan control, and my personal favorite is MSI Afterburner.
With temperatures in check, our retail Asus Radeon R9 290X with reference cooling pushes a 12% GPU overclock and 15% memory overclock.
The GDDR5 used on retail Radeon R9 290X cards doesn’t overclock consistently, though. I’ve seen various samples of the same model facilitate anything from 1280 to 1600 MHz (a 5120 to 6400 MT/s data rate). I shouldn’t have been surprised, then, to find this specific LCS AXR9 290X sample sustaining lower clock rates, in spite of its improved GPU headroom.
The battle between exceptional memory overclocking and a better GPU frequency played out in all of our benchmarks, and the liquid-cooled card came out on top.
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AMD Radeon really? $800?Reply
$100++ from GTX 780 Ti
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Crashman 12815459 said:really? $800?that's more than $150 from Asus DCU IIhttp://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=146&sort=a7
It has a $150 cooler (including the back plate, etc).
Of course Asus has a special cooler too. But Asus had the opportunity to drop its price, and the 290x has indeed dropped by $50 to $100 in the past two weeks. Supply is catching up with demand.
Unfortunately for PowerColor, its LCS 290X has been out-of-stock for more than two weeks. So they get stuck with prices that are at least two weeks old, at least until someone gets new inventory and lowers their price.
Sucks to be them, they should have restocked their sellers more quickly :)
But it's still cheaper than a water-cooled 780 Ti :)12815459 said:really? $800?
$100++ from GTX 780 Ti
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outlw6669 Great review Tom!Reply
Did you happen to notice any variability under load for your core speed while overclocked on the LCS card?
I have a Sapphire Tri-X OC R9 290X that is rock solid at its stock 1040MHz, but that starts bouncing the core clock all around when any core overclocking is applied.
With my quiet fan curve, load temps top out around 85°C; well below AMD's specified throttle point of 95°C.
If your liquid cooled cards are solid at 1200MHz, I am curious if Power Tune starts to throttle in a less severe way after going above 70- or 80°C. -
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Thanks for the explanation, very good review overall :)btw sorry I edited my comment before you posted
It has a $150 cooler (including the back plate, etc).Of course Asus has a special cooler too. But Asus had the opportunity to drop its price, and the 290x has indeed dropped by $50 to $100 in the past two weeks. Supply is catching up with demand.Unfortunately for PowerColor, its LCS 290X has been out-of-stock for more than two weeks. So they get stuck with prices that are at least two weeks old, at least until someone gets new inventory and lowers their price.Sucks to be them, they should have restocked their sellers more quickly :)12815459 said:really? $800?that's more than $150 from Asus DCU IIhttp://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=146&sort=a7 -
TheDane Sapphire R9 290X Tri-X is (very) silent, cheaper, doesn't required a W/C setup, and installation is much easier. Also the LCS card here requires a wide case due to its height!Reply -
Crashman Great review Tom!Did you happen to notice any variability under load for your core speed while overclocked on the LCS card?I have a Sapphire Tri-X OC R9 290X that is rock solid at its stock 1040MHz, but that starts bouncing the core clock all around when any core overclocking is applied.With my quiet fan curve, load temps top out around 85°C; well below AMD's specified throttle point of 95°C.If your liquid cooled cards are solid at 1200MHz, I am curious if Power Tune starts to throttle in a less severe way after going above 70- or 80°C.
Power throttling occurs under Furmark and not much else, and can be eliminated by increasing the power threshold.
...and toasts your CPU. Please read the first page of this review, thanks!12815581 said:Sapphire R9 290X Tri-X is (very) silent, cheaper, -
outlw6669
Odd, this happens with a +50% power limit and tested with the Metro Last Light benchmark :/12815634 said:Power throttling occurs under Furmark and not much else, and can be eliminated by increasing the power threshold.
Thanks for confirming that your test card was not throttling; back to troubleshooting my setup! -
Crashman
Remember that the LCS test card runs cooler than an air-cooled card, and that lower temperatures significantly lower power consumption :)12815667 said:
Odd, this happens with a +50% power limit and tested with the Metro Last Light benchmark :/12815634 said:Power throttling occurs under Furmark and not much else, and can be eliminated by increasing the power threshold.
Thanks for confirming that your test card was not throttling; back to troubleshooting my setup!
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outlw6669 12815705 said:Remember that the LCS test card runs cooler than an air-cooled card, and that lower temperatures significantly lower power consumption :)
Good point; I will have to retest with a cooler fan curve.
Not sure if this will be the issue though as even a 20MHz bump to the core, and +50% power limit added to this, causes throttling with under 85°C temps.
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ddpruitt As air temperatures climbed into the 20s (Celsius) inside the case
Actually with a low room temp it'll still affect results quite a bit. I can push higher clocks in the winter with a lower room temp than in the summer (and forget it when we hit 40C, no OCing unless the Air's cranked up all the way). You might want to retest once you're able to heat up the office to see how the temps are affected (both on the air cooled and water cooled setups).