Radeon HD 4870: What’s Improved?
|GPU||HD 4850||HD 4870||GTX 260||GTX 280|
|GPU frequency||625 MHz||750 MHz||576 MHz||602 MHz|
|ALU frequency||625 MHz||750 MHz||1242 MHz||1296 MHz|
|Memory frequency||1000 MHz||900 MHz||999 MHz||1107 MHz|
|Memory bus width||256 bits||256 bits||448 bits||512 bits|
|Memory quantity||512 MB||512 MB||896 MB||1024 MB|
|Number of ALUs||800||800||192||240|
|Number of texture units||40||40||64||80|
|Number of ROPs||16||16||28||32|
|Shading power||1 TFlops||1.2 TFlops||715 GFlops||933 GFlops|
|Memory bandwidth||64 GB/s||115.2 GB/s||111.9 GB/s||141.7 GB/s|
|Number of transistors||956 million||956 million||1400 million||1400 million|
|Die surface area||260 mm²||260 mm²||576 mm²||576 mm²|
|Shader Model supported||4.1||4.1||4.0||4.0|
The difference between the Radeon HD 4870 and its little brother the 4850 can be summed up in two characteristics: theoretical power, increased by 20% solely via higher clock speeds (the number of ALUs remain unchanged, unlike Nvidia’s approach), and above all memory bandwidth, which has almost doubled (+ 80%). This change is the result, as we’ve seen, of the use of GDDR5, with an equivalent frequency that’s nearly doubled compared to the GDDR3 used on the Radeon HD 4850. This type of memory is expensive, but less so than using a 512-bit or at least a 448-bit bus, which would have been necessary to achieve an equivalent bandwidth using GDDR3 memory as Nvidia has chosen to do — not to mention higher power consumption (memory chips + controller). The result is that the Radeon HD 4870’s bandwidth is similar (in fact 3% higher) to the GeForce GTX 260’s.
By the way, the theoretical superiority of the 4870’s raw processing power over the GTX 260’s is particularly impressive considering that the 4870’s GPU has a die surface area that’s barely 45% of the Nvidia card’s!
On the other hand, we can’t help but mention the obvious limitation that emerges from a reading of these specs – the memory quantity, still limited to 512 MB on the 4870. That’s only slightly over half as much as the GTX 260, and even when you consider that the Radeon cards suffer much less than the GeForce ones when using central memory in cases of frame buffer limitations, we’ll need to keep a close eye on how performance and rankings evolve as resolution increases. Also note that certain manufacturers, such as PowerColor, have already announced 1-GB versions of the Radeon HD 4870, but they won’t be available to do that before the end of July.
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finally ATI is getting some loveReply
I have the 4950 and it is great
nice review..I wonder why the 4850 can not render race driver : GRIDReply
for the pure gamer at heart, the 4870 seems to be a steal.Reply
however, what are the possibilities for a CUDA like processing environment or handling Physics engines? I think AMD has done a great job making a pure video card, but I believe the future will be with unified technologies of having the GPU assist in other tasks as well.
Time will Tell
Would REALLY help alot if there were charts with these new cards and some of the last gen (what's in the desktop charts now) that way I couldReply
see how much I could gain by upgrading. Maybe thats an update to the desktop charts that just hasnt been dont yet? Seems like it would have already been.
Under load, the heat sink did its job and the temperature didn’t rise all that much – at least not as much as the little Radeon HD 4850.Reply
The 4850 went up 6* and the 4870 went up 10*... I think the 4870 went up more, but you (Tom's) said it went up less.
LOL you don't even have your drivers working properly if a 3870 and 3870x2 are matching each other in performance. Crossfire on the card isn't even working properly, check any bench of a 3870x2 vs 3870 in Call of Duty 4 (ATI preferred drivers).Reply
The real key is what all the prices on these cards are when Nehalem is released.Reply
LOTS of enthusiasts are planning a Nehalem build toward the end of the year. I image they will be getting 4850/4870s or GTX260/GTX280s. All depending on where the prices are I imagine.
eltouristoWould REALLY help alot if there were charts with these new cards and some of the last gen (what's in the desktop charts now) that way I couldsee how much I could gain by upgrading. Maybe thats an update to the desktop charts that just hasnt been dont yet? Seems like it would have already been.Reply
I agree about the charts. I don't consider buying a 4870 vs an older card like an x1950, but it sure would be nice to see how much it has improved over time.
Thank you ATI. Though I won't be buying your card cause I just bought an 8800 GT maybe this will force nVidia to drop there prices and give me a cheap step up :D.Reply
I loved ati since the rage era, im so glad they are back in the game again, i might even consider trading in my 9800gtx sli for a 4850 crossfire down the line, maybe when i setup to ddr3. But for now best bang for the buck cards are the 9800gtx and the 4850 in my opinionReply