The Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 ranks as one of the best graphics cards for gamers. Not surprisingly, TechPowerUp seemingly has confirmation that Nvidia released a new variant of the 4070 with harvested AD103 chips, which are normally used in the faster RTX 40-series models like the RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4080 (now discontinued), and RTX 4080 Super. This is strictly business as usual, making use of every possible piece of silicon by turning off non-functional portions of the chip, and we previously reported on upcoming down-binned 40-series GPUs last month.
The RTX 4070 normally utilizes the smaller AD104 die. The silicon, a product of TSMC's 4N FinFET manufacturing process, measures 294 mm² in die size and houses up to 35.8 billion transistors. Although 60 SMs (7,680 CUDA cores) are inside the AD104 silicon, the GeForce RTX 4070 only has 46 SMs (5,888 CUDA cores) enabled. The RTX 4070 Ti (also discontinued) used the fully enabled AD104 GPU, while the RTX 4070 Super has 56 SMs (Streaming Multiprocessors) enabled.
AD103 has a die size of 379 mm² and 45.9 billion transistors, meaning it's 29% larger and thus costs 29% more to manufacture (give or take). The full chip has 80 SMs (10,240 CUDA cores), which is what Nvidia puts in the RTX 4080 Super. AD103 also supports four 64-bit memory channels (256-bit total), which are used for the 4070 Ti Super and above, while the 4070 only needs three channels (192-bit total).
There shouldn't be any noteworthy benefit to end users in getting an RTX 4070 based on a harvested AD103 chip. Rather, it's Nvidia likely clearing out "faulty" chips that simply couldn't meet the required specs for the higher-end Ada Lovelace models. This follows the usual pattern with prior GPU architectures, and Nvidia has likely been collecting AD103 chips that failed to meet the requirements for at least RTX 4070 Ti Super for over a year. Now, it has enough that it's ready to sell them off as a late-cycle update to a lower tier product — and with less than 60% of the SMs enabled, this should allow the use of nearly any remaining AD103 dies.
One TechPowerUp reader reported to the news outlet that the RTX 4070 (AD103) is already on the market. At least one known MSI model, the GeForce RTX 4070 Ventus 3X E 12G OC, is already using the AD103 die. TechPowerUp's investigation shows that the new model is already supported in the latest Nvidia 552.22 drivers. More concretely, support dates back to the earlier 551.86 drivers that Nvidia rolled out in early March.
While the AD103 chips is physically larger than AD104, the PCB design, pin map, and package are apparently the same, allowing Nvidia and its board partners to swap between the GPUs as needed. Again, this was a premeditated design decision as Nvidia knew before the first Ada Lovelace GPUs rolled off the production line that it would inevitably have some chips that would require down-binning.
The Nvidia Blackwell RTX 50-series graphics cards will likely hit the retail market before the end of this year, starting with the highest performance models. Nvidia will want to clear out any existing Ada Lovelace silicon as quickly as possible between now and Blackwell's launch, and recycling dies from one SKU to another represents a good way to do that. It wouldn't be surprising to see Nvidia also release a variant of the RTX 4070 Super using AD103 — all it would need is chips with at least 56 functional SMs.
Again, this silicon swap benefits Nvidia and its partners more than the consumer. The company is unlikely to lower the RTX 4070 (AD103) pricing or anything along those lines. Consumers will still receive an RTX 4070 with the same level of expected performance — though GPU temperatures could be slightly lower thanks to all the "dead silicon" in the chips.
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Zhiye Liu is a news editor and memory reviewer at Tom’s Hardware. Although he loves everything that’s hardware, he has a soft spot for CPUs, GPUs, and RAM.
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JamesJones44
I doubt there be a new name. The flawed 4080 chips will have whatever extra working parts beyond what the 4070 requires disabled in firmware most likely.PEnns said:And the name of this new creation would be?? RTX 4080 Sper Mini Me?? -
35below0
RTX 408050. Just to mess with everyone.PEnns said:And the name of this new creation would be?? RTX 4080 Sper Mini Me?? -
Eximo They did do different names occasionally. Usually when they left part of the bigger chip enabled. Like the 2060 KO GPUs which had 2080 GPUs. It was a slightly better workstation card because of the way the chips were built internally. Extra ROPs or something, been a while.Reply
It is possible it will retain the increased cache of the larger cards. Hopefully someone has a GPU-Z shot of it somewhere. -
Pierce2623
I’ve been trying for years to figure out what was left activated in the 2060 ko that raised it performance above the 2070 in some productivity apps. It wouldn’t have been ROPs, as they’re number is fixed per SM active.Eximo said:They did do different names occasionally. Usually when they left part of the bigger chip enabled. Like the 2060 KO GPUs which had 2080 GPUs. It was a slightly better workstation card because of the way the chips were built internally. Extra ROPs or something, been a while.
It is possible it will retain the increased cache of the larger cards. Hopefully someone has a GPU-Z shot of it somewhere. -
subspruce
4070 KOPEnns said:And the name of this new creation would be?? RTX 4080 Super Mini Me?? -
Eximo
My vague recollection was something like that the bigger chip had some level of math precision enabled that the lower cards didn't. I couldn't find anything on it that didn't require watching some old videos.Pierce2623 said:I’ve been trying for years to figure out what was left activated in the 2060 ko that raised it performance above the 2070 in some productivity apps. It wouldn’t have been ROPs, as they’re number is fixed per SM active. -
FunSurfer So what if the 4070 only needs three channels? Why can't it use the whole four channels so we could finally get the RTX 4070 16GB and the RTX 4070 Super 16GB?Reply -
Eximo This is likely the non-functional part of the chip they had to disable and the reason for binning them down to this point in the first place.Reply
The chip has 10240 potential CUDA cores, stripping it down to 5888 is pretty drastic. Next smallest GPU using that die is the 4070 Ti Super with 8448 cores working. Mobile 4090, 4080, and 4080 Super are the only other cards using it.
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Pierce2623
Probably because that memory controller is in fused off area of the chipFunSurfer said:So what if the 4070 only needs three channels? Why can't it use the whole four channels so we could finally get the RTX 4070 16GB and the RTX 4070 Super 16GB?