Radeon HD 4870 X2: Four Cards Compared

Problems with Catalyst 8.10: Part 1

When it comes time to benchmark, we usually use the generic graphics driver from the AMD’s Web site unless an early release forces us to go with a beta release. Generally we recommend against using the driver that shipped with the card on its software disc, as it’ll often be quite old and serve up different (generally worse) results. AMD has made a significant effort to show a new driver release every month, which complicates presenting scores with the latest release but also puts the latest bug fixes in the hands of enthusiasts immediately—a good thing.

When you start mixing reference software with vendor-specific apps, the door opens to complications. For example, Asus ships its Smart Doctor utility with the card, which allows manual adjustment of clock rates and fan settings. In its standard setting, the software only shows the current data of the graphics card. Extended configuration information has to be changed manually. Because the bundled software is also important when testing products, the Smart Doctor has to be installed either before or after the installation of the Catalyst package from AMD’s page. This is where we started encountering issues. The fan settings of the Radeon HD 4870 X2 start to behave very strangely with both apps co-existing. In 2D mode, the noise level rises up to 46.2 dB(A) at 42% fan speed. Without the Smart Doctor, but with Catalyst 8.10, the noise was only 37 dB(A) at 27% fan speed. If you assume that this difference was intentional, it means you would essentially trade higher fan speed and noise level for lower temperatures: 45°C (with Smart Doctor plus Catalyst 8.10) looks better for 2D mode than 78ºC (with only Catalyst 8.10).

But serious issues arise with the combination of Smart Doctor and Catalyst 8.10 in 3D mode. Under load, the temperature exceeds 90°C. The maximum value shouldn’t exceed 85°C, which is why the high load test had to be aborted several times. The reason for the high temperature lies in the low fan speed, which should actually limit it to 85°C, but the fan didn’t even start to speed up at 90ºC. Because this is only a test, we eventually decided to let things rip and let the cards fall where they may—we expected to fry the two graphic processors, but the fan surprisingly decided to speed up at a temperature of 96°C, which of course is way too high.

Another issue we noticed occurred when starting the high load tests. The fan speed was different each time: 2700 RPM, 2100 RPM, and in the worst case 3700 or 3900 RPM. Independent of the actual temperature, it took more or less time until the maximum temperature of 96°C was reached. Whatever the error is, when using only the Catalyst 8.10 without Smart Doctor, we didn’t experience any difficulties. The problems only occur with the combination. So you’ll have to make a decision: either use an older graphics driver version and Smart Doctor from the CD, or use the current Catalyst 8.10 from the AMD homepage, but without Smart Doctor from the CD.

Interestingly enough, in upgrading from 8.10 to 8.11, fan speeds on the Radeon HD 4870 X2 stuck at 50%, generating a ton of noise. On another system with a fresh installation of Vista and no previous driver installations, the issue disappeared. Just remember to always uninstall previous versions of the software before you install something new.

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  • neiroatopelcc
    "Because of accessories and price, Sapphire is our best-buy recommendation."
    One slight warning about sapphire though. If you have problems, don't expect their support team to help you before you've solved the problem yourself!

    I made a ticket regarding some issues with my 4870 on august 7th, and received a reply on the 26th of september! That's 46 days to address an error they simply stated would go away with a bios upgrade from their homepage!

    As for the article, I actually liked the detailed driver errors they encountered. Not that I liked the errors themselves, but I liked them being explained. Usually you just read 'after spending some hours resolving driver errors ....' without getting any wiser.
  • Pei-chen
    Wow, AMD cards consume power like a Detroit SUV. I like Nvidia GTX 2xx series’ Toyota Prius like efficiency at idle.
  • ilovebarny
    Why didnt they use the GTX260 Core 216? its like way better than the regular GTX260. And i just read yesterday that Nvidia was only going to make GTX260 Core 216 now. http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10497&Itemid=1
  • ilovebarny
    And i wish they had SLI'ed the 9800GTX+.
  • Chizops
    Why didn't they try using core i7 (extreme maybe)
  • enforcer22
    Pei-chenWow, AMD cards consume power like a Detroit SUV. I like Nvidia GTX 2xx series’ Toyota Prius like efficiency at idle.

    Hmm your right. Power house vs crippled mouse.. yeah your analagy sucked im sure mine did to but all i saw from what you typed was i like weak stuff dont give me more power.
  • bdollar
    seems to me if you are going to be comparing the highest end cards and even crossfire them for 4x you would have the highest resolution as one of the options. i would think people considering going x2 in crossfire would consider a 30" screen.

    don't get me wrong, i liked the article but would have liked to have seen the resolution spectrum hit the top.
  • It's nice to see the 9800GX2 included in the tests. I was considering the 4870x2 due to all the rave reviews but they never had the comparison like this against my current 9800GX2. I won't be getting new card anytime soon it seems. Thanks.
  • cleeve
    Wow, tons of info there, Tino. Nicely done!