System Builder Marathon, Q1 2014: The $2400 People’s Choice PC
Our High-End Build Evolves
System Builder Marathon, Q1 2014: The Articles
Here are links to each of the four articles in this quarter’s System Builder Marathon (we’ll update them as each story is published). And remember, these systems are all being given away at the end of the marathon.
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Day 1: The $2400 Reader's Choice PC
Day 2: Our New Enthusiast PC
Day 3: The $750 Gaming PC
Day 4: Performance And Value, Dissected
Introduction
Our System Builder Marathon typically caters to the value-oriented gaming, performance-enthusiast, and extreme performance markets. The benchmarks we use are similarly diverse; we try to include tests relevant to power users concerned with productivity, content creation, and gaming. Weighting the suite helps ensure that each type of test affects the end result the way we think is most fair. To that end, games only count towards 20% of our overall evaluation.
I typically get the privilege of building with the largest budget. That's both a blessing and a curse, though. Twenty-four-hundred dollars should be enough money to optimize for all of the benchmarks we run, which explains why my previous two efforts paired high-end CPUs with multiple graphics cards.
Was I wrong in that approach, though? More than once, readers pegged my "jack of all trades" approach as a master of none. Some folks criticized the use of gaming-class graphics cards in a workstation. Others thought it was a waste to use a professional-level processor in a gaming box. More than anything, though, it was stipulated that no machine should be expected to do everything well, and any effort to the contrary would fall short somehow.
Gamers were the most vocal advocates for change, making good points favoring a Haswell-based processor instead of Ivy Bridge-E. After all, only a handful of benchmarks scale well beyond four cores, and the newer architecture's better per-core performance helps improve the benchmark results in less aggressively-threaded metrics. Haswell-based processors also use less power, allowing us to choose a PSU that's either cheaper, more efficient, or a combination of both. Lower CPU prices, a dual-channel memory kit (instead of quad), and a Z87 Express-based motherboard (rather than X79) leaves more room in the budget for graphics, too.
Incidentally, graphics turned out to be the most contentious part of my previous build. Purchased for a mere $400 per card at the start of the cryptocurrency gold-rush, my two Radeon R9 290s quickly rose to $1200 before I could even write about why I picked them. Worse, those newly-expensive cards also compelled me to buy a super-quiet case that a lot of readers didn’t like. In comparison, at $520 per board, the GeForce GTX 780s our readers were recommending would run quiet enough to pick almost any case out there.
Q1 2014 $2400 Performance PC Components | ||
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Processor | Intel Core i7-4770K (Haswell): 3.5-3.9 GHz, Quad-Core, 8 MB Shared L3 Cache | $340 |
Graphics | 2 x EVGA 03G-P4-2781-KR GeForce GTX 780 3 GB (SLI) | $1040 |
Motherboard | ASRock Z87 Extreme4: LGA 1150, Intel Z87 Express | $145 |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-1866C9D-16GXM: DDR3-1866 C9, 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) | $163 |
System Drive | SanDisk Ultra Plus SDSSDHP-256G-G25: 256 GB, SATA 6Gb/s SSD | $170 |
Storage Drive | Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001: 2 TB, SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive | $90 |
Optical | Lite-On iHAS124-04: 24x DVD±R, 48x CD-R | $20 |
Case | NZXT Phantom 410 Series CA-PH410-G1 | $90 |
Power | Corsair HX750: 750 W Semi-Modular, ATX12V v2.3, 80 PLUS Gold | $140 |
CPU Cooler | Thermaltake CLW0217 Water 2.0 Extreme | $95 |
PWM Fan | Antec SpotCool Blue LED Fan | $17 |
Row 11 - Cell 0 | Total Cost | $2310 |
Has our audience's guidance turned this month’s do-everything PC into a high-end gaming build? We’ll run a few benchmarks to answer that question. But first, let's examine the components and how they all come together.
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Darkerson Interesting move, showing the nicest build 1st instead of last. Cant wait to see all the builds compared and see what you all come up with as the budget goes down.Reply -
captain_jonno Looks good. Surprised only went with a 750w PSU though. Considering 2x 780 ti's and overlockingReply -
Crashman
Yessir, two 780s and a bit of experience in part picking lead me to expect around 700W of required system power. And, it came out just a little less than 700W.12951919 said:Looks good. Surprised only went with a 750w PSU though. Considering 2x 780 ti's and overlocking
Power supplies of greater capacity and similar reliability at this price tend to be lower-efficiency units. And we like efficiency too.
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Crashman
It's not calculated power, it's measured power for the entire system (at the power plug). No addition or subtraction was used.12952008 said:I dont get the "W" usage?680+237 = 917w. Not 802w as meation above?
1.) Start the system, wait for all processes to load, take a measurement (Active, but idle)
2.) Load the CPU using eight thread of AVX-optimized Prime95, take a reading (CPU Load).
3.) Load GPUs with 3DMark 11 Test 1 in loop, take max reading as it heats up (GPU Load).
4.) Load both applications (CPU+GPU Load).
The "math problem" is that any program used to fully load the GPU also partly loads the CPU. So when test 4 is Prime95+3DMark, Prime95 can only use whatever CPU resources are left with 3DMark running.
So the most accurate system power reading is with "CPU+GPU Load" applied. The system measurement for "CPU Load" still includes the power of an idle GPU. And the system power measurement for "GPU Load" still includes the amount of CPU energy it takes to run the GPU's test application.
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YellowBee 12952046 said:
It's not a calculation, it's a reading for the entire system (at the power plug). Load the CPU using eight thread of AVX-optimized Prime95, take reading one. Load GPUs with 3DMark 11 Test 1 in loop, take max reading as it heats up.12952008 said:I dont get the "W" usage?680+237 = 917w. Not 802w as meation above?
The "math problem" is that any program used to fully load the GPU also partly loads the CPU. So when test 3 is Prime95+3DMark, Prime95 can only use whatever CPU resources are left with 3DMark running.
So the most accurate system power reading is with "CPU+GPU Load" applied. The system measurement for "CPU Load" still includes the reading of an idle GPU. And the system power measurement for "GPU Load" still includes the amount of CPU power it takes to run the GPU.
Very much appreciated and satisfying answer.
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bemused_fred
Any chance of including these calculations in all future articles, so that we know exactly how the power graph is calculated? Ta.
It's not calculated power, it's measured power for the entire system (at the power plug). No addition or subtraction was used.1.) Start the system, wait for all processes to load, take a measurement (Active, but idle)2.) Load the CPU using eight thread of AVX-optimized Prime95, take a reading (CPU Load).3.) Load GPUs with 3DMark 11 Test 1 in loop, take max reading as it heats up (GPU Load).4.) Load both applications (CPU+GPU Load).The "math problem" is that any program used to fully load the GPU also partly loads the CPU. So when test 4 is Prime95+3DMark, Prime95 can only use whatever CPU resources are left with 3DMark running.So the most accurate system power reading is with "CPU+GPU Load" applied. The system measurement for "CPU Load" still includes the power of an idle GPU. And the system power measurement for "GPU Load" still includes the amount of CPU energy it takes to run the GPU's test application.12952008 said:I dont get the "W" usage?680+237 = 917w. Not 802w as meation above? -
Crashman
Which calculations?12952271 said:
Any chance of including these calculations in all future articles, so that we know exactly how the power graph is calculated? Ta.12952046 said:It's not calculated power, it's measured power for the entire system
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jabuscus wow. such performance. many ram. they should've put in 16gb of ram for real high-end specs. ;)Reply -
Versutia As I'm into quiet enclosures, I'd go along this route:Reply
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3fuGw
Wondering how much of a difference would non-reference cards make. Obviously, CPU cooler and RAM could be different, BR drive optional, storage drive as well.