Wall-Sized 3D Gaming With Nvidia 3D Vision

Test System And Benchmarks

We're using the same Core 2 Duo E7200-based system we did in our previous 3D theater article in order to compare results. The CPU is an older specimen, but it's a cool-running device, is slightly overclocked, and is a good representation of a processor that someone might use in an HTPC.

For graphics performance, we're testing with the same GeForce GTX 260 that we used in the previous article, once again to keep results comparable. We can't re-use the Radeon HD 4890 because 3D Vision only works with GeForce 3D Vision-ready graphics cards.

We'd like to show you how these games look in 3D and we're offering a way to experience the 3D depth without spending any cash on a 3D monitor. It is called “cross viewing.” The image on the left is for your right eye and the image on the right is for your left eye. A good trick to use is to hold your finger about halfway to the screen in front of the images you are trying to cross view. Focus your eyes on your finger and move your finger towards or away from the screen until there appears to be three identically sized images behind it instead of two. Then, shift your focus to the center image and move your finger out of the way. If done properly you will see what appears to be three images: a clear 3D image in the center and blurry 2D images on each side. For some people it is easier to accomplish this by increasing the distance between your eyes and the monitor. Not everyone will have success with cross viewing, but it is a nice option for folks who can experience it.

To get a better view, click on the cross view image for a pop-up window that features a larger version. To get a better view, click on the cross view image for a pop-up window that features a larger version.

For viewers who can't wrap their eyes around cross viewing, these images can still be used to point out any anomalies between right- and left-perspective views.


3D Test System
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 (Wolfdale), 2.53 GHz, 3 MB Shared L2 Cache; Overclocked to 2.61 GHz @ 275 MHz FSB
Motherboard
Asus P5N7A-VM, nForce 730i, BIOS 512
Networking
Onboard Gigabit LAN controller
Memory
Kingston PC2-6400
  2 x 2,048 MB, 330 MHz, CL 5-5-5-15-2T
Graphics
Radeon HD 4890 Reference
850 MHz Core, 975 MHz Memory, 1 GB GDDR5
Asus GeForce ENGTX260 Matrix
576 MHz Core, 1,242 MHz Shaders, 999 MHz Memory, 796 MB GDDR3
Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar WD50 00AAJS-00YFA
500 GB, 7200 RPM, 8 MB cache, SATA 3.0 Gb/s
Power
Thermaltake Toughpower 1200 W
1200 W, ATX 12V 2.2, EPS 12v 2.91
Software and Drivers
Operating System
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit, SP2
DirectX versionDirectX 10
Graphics Drivers
AMD Catalyst 10.2, Nvidia GeForce 196.21 (TriDef and iZ3D benchmarks) and 257.21 (3D Vision benchmarks)
Benchmark Configuration

3D Games

Crysis

Patch 1.2.1, DirectX 9, Medium Settings

Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Version 1.0.0, Highest Settings, 4x AA
Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box

Highest Details, 8x MSAA, SSAO off

Left 4 Dead

Version 1.0.1.5; Highest Settings, 4x AA

Dungeons and Dragons Online

Version 1.11.0.8125; Ultra-High Details, DirectX 9, 4x AA

Star Trek Online

Version 2010.03.22.11.32; Recommended Quality, 4x AA

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  • hemburger
    I'd rather wall sized 1080p playback than wall sized 3D playback. = )
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  • hemburger
    I'd rather wall sized 1080p playback than wall sized 3D playback. = )
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  • Lmeow
    I would love to have a 3D system like this, unfortunately it's nCredibly expensive...
    9
  • Tamz_msc
    I don't care about 3D.
    5
  • infodan
    What about DLP 3D? the projector supports it, DLP-link glasses are cheaper and dont require a transmitter like the nvidia glasses.
    -4
  • TheStealthyOne
    "The whole experiment consisted of about $2500 worth of hardware and software, NOT including the PC driving the displays."

    I cringed.
    2
  • kolsky
    I own a acer h5360 and I agree, it is awesome watching 3d movies on it. 1080p? Dont even notice pixellation at 115 inch screen. 720p is fine and at a great price. 1080p 3d projectors will be extremely expensive for average consumers.
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  • proxy711
    kolsky 3d is extremely expensive for average consumers.


    Fixed.
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  • Rickyw972
    Is this projector better than the Mitshibshi 73" 1080p dlp for $1100?
    -1
  • kolsky
    Im sorry, but 3d is NOT expensive. The acer 5360 can be bought for as low as 580 and the nvidia vision glasses kit can be bought for as low as 150. That is under 1,000... less than the cost of a 3D TV.
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  • DaFees
    Interesting read, but ultimately all this 3D talk leaves me with a big question. I have a PS3 and if I upgrade my PC to a 3D vision enabled PC is there a projector (perhaps the one discussed in this article) that would allow me to enjoy the 3D from my PS3 and my PC? I understand if I would need a switch between devices or manually switch cables. I know NVIDIA is working on a 3DTV play tech that let's you use the glasses of 3D enabled HDTV to enjoy NVIDIA 3D Vision, but is there a similar option for projectors?
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  • scrumworks
    kolskyIm sorry, but 3d is NOT expensive. The acer 5360 can be bought for as low as 580 and the nvidia vision glasses kit can be bought for as low as 150. That is under 1,000... less than the cost of a 3D TV.


    ATI/AMD will make it a lot cheaper without proprietary hugely expensive crap like nvidia.

    http://www.digitalversus.com/3d-films-and-games-with-glasses-from-ati-before-christmas-article-1086.html
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  • TheGreatGrapeApe
    Saddest thing in the review: "and the software developers we've talked to have indicated that the dual-projector option is too fringe to justify development."

    D-bags once again focusing on their limitations rather than options.

    Glad I didn't waste my money on that 3D upgrade for PowerDVD or others until they get their act together to support both methods.

    It's obviously already possible as shown by JVC last year (see end of clip);
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbm0VoL845k&feature=channel_page
    but once again leave it to the small minded accountants running the companies to keep it held back.

    Nice look as always though Don. :sol:
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  • TheGreatGrapeApe
    Anonymous said:
    Im sorry, but 3d is NOT expensive. The acer 5360 can be bought for as low as 580 and the nvidia vision glasses kit can be bought for as low as 150. That is under 1,000... less than the cost of a 3D TV.


    That's for one viewer, and then it's X amount for each additional viewer to have shutter glasses, expensive if you have friends, cheap if you're a loner.

    Polarization is the way to go for a bunch of people.
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  • Jerky_san
    I actually have a setup like this but I used a optoma GT700 and did a little messing with drivers to get the nvidia glasses to see it.. I don't really see a whole lot of "3d" though I guess maybe my eyes don't work well with the system.. I got to say though having a 135' screen to watch movies on is fun..
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  • hixbot
    scrumworksATI/AMD will make it a lot cheaper without proprietary hugely expensive crap like nvidia. http://www.digitalversus.com/3d-fi [...] -1086.html

    Well Nvidia's 3DTV Play will offer the same thing. HDMI 1.4a compatibility, no need to buy the Nvidia Vision kit, works with glasses provided by the display etc.
    It's odd, that article you posted doesn't mention that.
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  • allrock
    Most Cinemas I have seem do not use 2 projecters to display 3D movies they use a single digital projecter that displays alternate frames, the Dolby system uses A spinning filter wheel betwean the projectors lamp and Imager, it alters the light up and down in frequency synced to the proper frame and passive RGB filter glasses allow only the corect eye to see the corect image (no special silver screan required because the light is not polerized ) RealD uses a switching circuler polarizer (called Z screan ) placed in front of the projecter and synced to the proper frame this system like all polerized systems requires a silver screan to mantain polarization of the image and is viewed with cicular polarized glasses (inexpensive) both systems use a single projecter and alternating frame sequence of the image projected, and passive glasses there are Active glasses systems as well but they are less comon.
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  • Jerky_san
    Rickyw972Is this projector better than the Mitshibshi 73" 1080p dlp for $1100?

    look up the gt700 its 720p but the nice thing about it is that its short throw. So you can put it in a 10x10 room and still get a really large picture..
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  • hixbot
    Lets not forget that HDMI 1.4a does not have a mandatory standard for 3d at 1080p60. The HDMI chips are just too slow to handle the bandwidth. It's limited to 1080p24, 1080i60, or 720p60. So 3d Bluray playback will be fine on HDMI, but 3d gaming will be very limited on HDMI.
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  • faraz1010
    heads up for 3d vision..bt nVidia sucks for making it only geForce card compatible..
    ATI cards would have given lot bttr results
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  • xsamitt
    Not interested in this.Your mileage may vary.
    -4