AMD 170W Granite Ridge Zen 5 CPUs and 128W Strix Point APUs revealed in shipping manifest — 16-core 'Fire Range' mobile CPUs also coming
AMD is making a lot of new CPUs right now.
According to several reports by @momomo_us and @harukaze5719, an AMD shipping manifest spilled the beans on a plethora of new Zen 5 CPUs, including desktop and mobile variants. The manifest reveals that AMD is working on new , 170W Zen 5 Granite Ridge CPUs, 128W Zen 5-based Strix Point APUs (possibly called Strix Point Halo), and a mysterious new mobile lineup codenamed Fire Range sporting up to 16 Zen 5 cores and a 55W TDP. Zen 5 should arrive later this year to take on the best CPUs for gaming.
These shipments are most likely engineering samples rather than production-ready models. Regardless, the manifest confirms that development on these CPUs is well underway. Starting with APUs, there are five total SKUs: three Strix Point and two Fire Range models. The Strix Point chips encompass Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 models with 128W TDPs featuring B0 steppings, so these are desktop parts. The Fire Range chips consist of 8-core and 16-core SKUs, also featuring a B0 stepping but with a much lower 55W TDP.
The shipping manifest also has several Granite Ridge models, one sporting six cores and a 105W TDP with an A0 stepping. There are also a pair of eight core 170W chips listed with a B0 stepping listing, but a codename wasn't given. We suspect these are also Granite Ridge CPUs.
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Granite Ridge is the codename for AMD's next-generation desktop CPU lineup based on the Zen 5 CPU architecture. AMD hasn't said much officially on Zen 5 (yet), but based on previous leaks it appears Zen 5 will have a 15% IPC improvement over Ryzen 7000 (Zen 4). Much of this improvement will purportedly come from architectural design changes on the cores themselves.
One noteworthy takeaway from the leak is that Zen 5 will be the first AMD architecture to put 16 cores in a single CCD, making a potential 32-core mainstream AM5 flagship possible. However, the shipping manifest does not highlight any potential 32-core Granite Ridge CPUs, so take this potential design change with a pinch of salt.
Strix Point is the codename for AMD's next-generation Zen 5 mobile CPUs, aimed at replacing the Ryzen 8040 series. Strix Point will purportedly arrive with up to twelve cores, featuring a mixture of Zen 5 and Zen 5c cores. It will also have AMD's XDNA 2 neural processing unit (NPU), with an upgraded graphics engine sporting an enhanced RDNA 3 architecture currently dubbed as "RDNA 3.5".
The interesting tidbit from the shipping manifest is that these purported Strix Point APUs have an extremely high 128W TDP, which is way higher than any of AMD's outgoing NPU-enabled Ryzen mobile CPUs, including the Ryzen 7040 series and Ryzen 8040 series. This implies these 128W chips could be Strix Point Halo, an off-shoot of Strix Point featuring a chiplet-based design and substantially more beefy integrated GPU.
The most mysterious SKUs on the shipping manifest are the Fire Range CPUs. We haven't heard of this codename before, but these chips are supposed to be the Zen 5 version of Dragon Range, an outgoing CPU lineup of Ryzen 9 79xxHX series mobile CPUs sporting 16 cores on a chiplet-style architecture. We can't be sure of the details, but it's not surprising that AMD would want to put 16 Zen 5 cores on mobile, just as it did with Zen 4.
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Notton Are we sure it's 128W, and not Strix1 28W?Reply
Maybe it's Strix1 = Strix Point, Strix2 = Strix Halo? -
Notton said:Maybe it's Strix1 = Strix Point, Strix2 = Strix Halo?
Most likely YES. These could also be the Strix 1 chips sporting the classic or monolithic package, unlike Strix 2 chiplet-based premium SKUs. I'm also more inclined towards Strix 1, than the Halo parts. -
usertests One noteworthy takeaway from the leak is that Zen 5 will be the first AMD architecture to put 16 cores in a single CCD, making a potential 32-core mainstream AM5 flagship possible.
I'd like an annotated guide to show where these conclusions are coming from.
There is probably a 16-core Zen 5c CCD, and the usual 8-core Zen 5 CCD. AMD can impress on multi-threading by putting these two together for a 24-core. -
TerryLaze
128W would be a good thing, it would mean that it would have really good iGPU performance.Notton said:Are we sure it's 128W, and not Strix1 28W?
Maybe it's Strix1 = Strix Point, Strix2 = Strix Halo?
Fire range would be 16 cores at 55W, so why not have a decently powered iGPU one. -
Notton
Yeah, it would be, but Strix Point only has 16CU. For reference, RX 7600 has 32CU, and Hawk Point 8040 has 12CUTerryLaze said:128W would be a good thing, it would mean that it would have really good iGPU performance.
Fire range would be 16 cores at 55W, so why not have a decently powered iGPU one.
Strix Halo with 40CU isn't supposed to come out until 2025. -
hotaru251 will be the first AMD architecture to put 16 cores in a single CCD, making a potential 32-core mainstream AM5 flagship possible.
imho I assume this is more to get rid of the issue AMD's had with multi CCD's where it causes performance issues.
Would likely make it so the lower 1ccd x3d cpu's no longer lose in gaming compared to their higher sku version w/ 2ccd.
AMD has no real reason to ever increase core count given they have TR for if you need more cores. (and no mainstream consumer really gains much benefit from any more except very niche uses) -
Amdlova Lol... new boards will be like 400us for support this new tdp..Reply
It's beyond of insanity... I'am trying find the sweet spot on 35w tdp. -
NeoMorpheus Strange that the first thing mentioned is the TDP, but i dont see the same thing on all the other articles at the CPU section for the Intel ones.Reply -
tbq
That so much supposed processing power is available at ONLY 170 watts is what makes it newsworthy compared to Intel's current offerings. The fact that Intel's high end CPUs use so much power is no longer news to anyone that's familiar with current trends in consumer level computers.NeoMorpheus said:Strange that the first thing mentioned is the TDP, but i dont see the same thing on all the other articles at the CPU section for the Intel ones. -
rluker5
Can 170w for 8c be ambiently cooled on AM5? I thought that Zen4 was designed to thermal throttle at less watts using the same chonky IHS.tbq said:That so much supposed processing power is available at ONLY 170 watts is what makes it newsworthy compared to Intel's current offerings. The fact that Intel's high end CPUs use so much power is no longer news to anyone that's familiar with current trends in consumer level computers.
Also if you turn down Raptor's clocks to match vanilla Zen 4's performance, like 5 ghz or so, the power consumption gets a lot closer and would probably be equivalent if they were on the same node.
Intel just runs clocks to the moon and everyone knows that takes a lot more power. A lot of people prefer it that way. Anybody can downclock their chip to save power, even in Windows with no bios changes, but how many do? (I often do and have shared an easy way how several times but nobody cares.) How many Zen owners would run their CPU at +500mhz if they could cool it and it used 300w?
It isn't just black and white Intel is inefficient and AMD+TSMC is efficient.