MSI optimizes affordable Intel 800 mobos for China's first homegrown DDR5 memory chips

MSI B860 motherboards
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MSI recently listed several Intel B860 motherboards in China, including MSI MAG B860 Tomahawk Wi-Fi, MAG B860M Mortar Wi-Fi, and Pro B860M-A Wi-Fi. These boards are priced at RMB 1,699 (~US$235), RMB 1, 499 (~US$205), and RMB 1,299 (~US$180), respectively. But aside from these boards becoming available, Chinese tech outlet Sina (machine translated) claims that the BIOS files for these boards are optimized for ChangXin Memory Technology (CXMT) DDR5 memory ICs.

This could be an important milestone for the Chinese company, especially as it aims to capture a sizable chunk of the memory market in the coming years. It started production of DDR5 chips for consumers in late December 2024, and it’s the first company to do so locally in China. CXMT uses a less advanced node for production to ensure that it stays within the U.S.’s export restrictions, meaning these chips will be larger by around 40% versus those produced by other manufacturers like Samsung and Micron.

Because of this, we expect CXMT DDR5 memory to have weaker performance than its competition. However, it might have an advantage over rival DDR5 suppliers as it’s the only local manufacturer in China, especially if the U.S. slaps additional bans and sanctions that prevent other companies from selling their more advanced DDR5 memory to the East Asian country.

This is CXMT’s first DDR5 release, and it could still reduce the die size and price of its memory modules as it continues with research and development, much like how its competitors did. Aside from this, the company could further reduce its costs as it ramps up production. For example, it currently undercuts Samsung in DDR4 pricing by about 50%, making its offerings more tempting to partners, especially as some of its new components are dropping below the price of recycled memory chips.

Since MSI added optimizations for CXMT DDR5 memory to its motherboards, it seems that the well-known PCs, components, and accessories brand is expecting the Chinese market to snap up memory modules featuring the first homegrown DDR5 memory. After all, even though there is a possibility it may cost more to produce than their competitors at the moment, the fact that they’re locally made means that CXMT’s partners do not need to pay import duties to use these chips. It’s also interesting to note that MSI first introduced these optimizations alongside the availability of its more affordable boards, where the market is more price-sensitive and will likely not care about performance details as long as the memory they’re getting is DDR5.

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Jowi Morales
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Jowi Morales is a tech enthusiast with years of experience working in the industry. He’s been writing with several tech publications since 2021, where he’s been interested in tech hardware and consumer electronics.

  • OldAnalogWorld
    These modules consume more, have larger chips and higher latency, because Chinese factories are significantly inferior to Western companies in terms of technical processes. The same is with YMTC, which produces flash memory using increasingly outdated technical processes and tries to get by with all sorts of tricks. In the absence of comparable quality characteristics of their products, they have no choice but to dump, significantly reducing prices, but this only increases their market unprofitability and the demand for endless subsidies from the CPC. And this is a road to nowhere, until they fundamentally reach the level of the West in technology, which is not even close. The CPC can only hope that their regime will generate advanced human capital that will surpass the West in intelligence and creativity. Because there will be more and more serious problems with poaching from the West...

    I don't think that in such a social environment they will be able to get such a wide layer of talented people who are ready to work for them, and not trying to escape from there at the first opportunity...
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  • IBM296
    OldAnalogWorld said:
    These modules consume more, have larger chips and higher latency, because Chinese factories are significantly inferior to Western companies in terms of technical processes. The same is with YMTC, which produces flash memory using increasingly outdated technical processes and tries to get by with all sorts of tricks. In the absence of comparable quality characteristics of their products, they have no choice but to dump, significantly reducing prices, but this only increases their market unprofitability and the demand for endless subsidies from the CPC. And this is a road to nowhere, until they fundamentally reach the level of the West in technology, which is not even close. The CPC can only hope that their regime will generate advanced human capital that will surpass the West in intelligence and creativity. Because there will be more and more serious problems with poaching from the West...

    I don't think that in such a social environment they will be able to get such a wide layer of talented people who are ready to work for them, and not trying to escape from there at the first opportunity...
    Man people still have these idiotic ideas that in the long term China won't succeed lol. The release of DeepSeek R1 should now teach us that it's only a matter of time before China achieves parity with the West.

    The way Intel and Samsung foundries are floundering at the moment, YMTC, CXMT, SMIC and Huawei will have all caught up by 2030.
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  • rluker5
    If these can maintain jedec speeds and timings they might make their way into OEM prebuilts.
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  • YSCCC
    IBM296 said:
    Man people still have these idiotic ideas that in the long term China won't succeed lol. The release of DeepSeek R1 should now teach us that it's only a matter of time before China achieves parity with the West.

    The way Intel and Samsung foundries are floundering at the moment, YMTC, CXMT, SMIC and Huawei will have all caught up by 2030.
    As someone who knows some chinese local they arn't optimistic either, propaganda nature within just outright rules out those who are dedicated on the fundamentals on tech development and promotes those who do copying, and in general they are way less caring about say, real dust free rooms for the fabs... It doesn't help they need to report success and success only to the upper mangements and leaders to do all those promotion, this makes them less vigorous in QC, see reliability issues in YMTC for example.
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  • setx
    YSCCC said:
    It doesn't help they need to report success and success only to the upper mangements and leaders to do all those promotion, this makes them less vigorous in QC, see reliability issues in YMTC for example.
    Wow, it's totally different to western companies like, uhm, Intel...

    OldAnalogWorld said:
    These modules consume more
    Is it significantly more or insignificantly? By desktop scale.
    OldAnalogWorld said:
    have larger chips
    So big that they won't fit in your computes case?
    OldAnalogWorld said:
    and higher latency
    So high that it doesn't comply to JEDEC?
    OldAnalogWorld said:
    because Chinese factories are significantly inferior to Western companies in terms of technical processes
    And Western companies are significantly inferior to Eastern companies in terms of technical processes and memory quality/quantity: Micron is clearly the worst compared to Hynix/Samsung for DDR5.
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  • YSCCC
    setx said:
    Wow, it's totally different to western companies like, uhm, Intel...

    It is completely different to Intel... Intel while stagnated for quite a while and rushed the QC so that their reputation is down, they have to bear the consequences, there are reasons why all those years of "sudden breakthroughs" which "china will overtake in a few years" had no follow up after the initial launch and a decade passed...
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  • setx
    YSCCC said:
    It is completely different to Intel... Intel while stagnated for quite a while and rushed the QC
    It's not as different as you think. Intel hasn't suddenly "rushed the QC" – they deliberately cut the QC several years ago and it wasn't even a secret: there was clear information from their (past) workers on forums. So their current situation is fully deserved and caused by short-sightedness.

    As for "they have to bear the consequences", which consequences exactly? They didn't recall clearly defective hardware, they lost just few % in server market despite offering inferior and overpriced hardware for years now, and their manufacturing money troubles seems to be going to be covered by government money. So, what are they going to "bear"?

    As for "china will overtake in a few years" claims, were they even made by Chinese companies for international markets? I think China only claimed to become self-sufficient and they are clearly moving towards that goal.
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  • YSCCC
    setx said:
    It's not as different as you think. Intel hasn't suddenly "rushed the QC" – they deliberately cut the QC several years ago and it wasn't even a secret: there was clear information from their (past) workers on forums. So their current situation is fully deserved and caused by short-sightedness.

    As for "they have to bear the consequences", which consequences exactly? They didn't recall clearly defective hardware, they lost just few % in server market despite offering inferior and overpriced hardware for years now, and their manufacturing money troubles seems to be going to be covered by government money. So, what are they going to "bear"?

    As for "china will overtake in a few years" claims, were they even made by Chinese companies for international markets? I think China only claimed to become self-sufficient and they are clearly moving towards that goal.
    Intel have their ARL sales tanked hard, most from small companies due to the RPL disaster, so... those are the consequences, and as a result, zen 5 sold like hotacakes... if that isn't counted as consequences, I don't know what is

    for the "china will overtake in a few years" claims, in chinese media, it's literally everywhere every week, hwawei, home grown CPU chips, ram chips, NAND.... they just don't honor warranty or basic reputation, YMTC NAND have and still is disasterous and almost killed ADATA SSD brand in the Asia market.
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  • setx
    YSCCC said:
    Intel have their ARL sales tanked hard, most from small companies due to the RPL disaster, so... those are the consequences, and as a result, zen 5 sold like hotacakes... if that isn't counted as consequences, I don't know what is
    How are those significant consequences? Does Intel face bankruptcy? Is company going to split up? Did they lose a lot of market share? Is most of upper management radically changed? Nothing...

    YSCCC said:
    for the "china will overtake in a few years" claims, in chinese media...
    I feel that there are more such claims in non-Chinese media, lol. How else would Intel & co justify all the money they are going to get?
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  • OldAnalogWorld
    setx said:
    How are those significant consequences? Does Intel face bankruptcy? Is company going to split up? Did they lose a lot of market share? Is most of upper management radically changed? Nothing...
    Intel is already technically bankrupt. Only non-market subsidies will continue to keep them afloat and the need for the US to have its own most advanced semiconductor production on the planet is a geopolitical lever of influence on the entire planet, since the management of TSMC (and Taiwan) is not eager to build factories with the most advanced technological processes on US territory in a normal instinct for self-preservation, no matter how much pressure the US authorities put on them and no matter how much the CPC's thirst to get its hands on this island (which even the US officially recognizes as Chinese territory) presses.
    Intel has lost its human capital. It is very difficult to gain it back in the required critical quantity. But if they manage to complete what they started, the departure from non-market practices will be extremely difficult with many unfavorable consequences...

    The Chinese will continue to try to develop their technologies under sanctions - and what else can they do, as a more advanced and large successor to the USSR? But their aspirations have already run into the same problems - the impossibility of finding human capital of the required level in China and getting it from somewhere else. And the education system in a totalitarian country can never provide such a wide layer of people with such abilities. Suppression of initiative and creativity from kindergarten, deliberate suppression of pluralism of opinions, critical thinking, leads to an intellectual dead end in adulthood...
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