CryoVenom R9 290 Review: Water Cooling With A Warranty
Liquid cooling solves the thermal challenges presented by AMD's Hawaii GPU much more elegantly than a big heat sink and loud fan. But the requisite parts also add cost. Does VisionTek's CryoVenom R9 290 deliver maximum performance at a fair price?
Power, Heat, And Efficiency
AMD's latest Catalyst drivers override AMD's firmware settings, resulting in the Quiet and Uber modes performing pretty much the same (at least according to the results of my maddeningly-long time in the lab with these cards). The only difference I found was that the air-cooled card reached a lower idle state in Quiet mode, and I'm using that more conservative idle state in these power numbers.
The system with our air-cooled Radeon R9 290 only idles down to 102 W with the Uber firmware selected. Overclocked, the air-cooled card could have dropped to 105 W if we were using the Quiet BIOS and our more aggressive clock rate settings. Conversely, VisionTek's CryoVenom R9 290 doesn't exhibit the same behavioral difference.
The overclocked air-cooled card's higher idle temperature can be partly attributed to the fact that its power consumption doesn't drop as low with Uber mode engaged. I checked, and at the same clock rates, Quiet mode would have allowed it to drop to 22 °C over-ambient.
Overclocked, the retail card's lower temperature comes from a higher fan speed that adversely affects noise.
Less thermal throttling allows VisionTek's CryoVenom R9 290 to gain 2% performance over the air-cooled board running at the exact same frequencies. It also enjoys 6%-higher overclocked performance.
Using the stock Radeon R9 290 as a baseline, we find that the CryoVenom can improve efficiency by up to 19% under the effects of overclocking. It's even 11% more efficient than the stock card, using the same BIOS, at stock clock rates. Lower temperatures do wonders for efficiency.
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OttoD Would have loved Reference vs. Custome Aircooling vs. water, is it worth going from example Sapphire Tri-X to water? theres really no need for reference coolers in no one in there right mind will buy one of those unless its for fitting water your self.Reply -
hansrotec Moving to water cooling with my 7970 was night and day in terms of temps and noise. worth every penny. right now im planning a cooling overhaul to drop the temp while not needing the pump to speed up as much - larger/ more rad and a new pump started with an swiftech h220 and added on an EK 7970 lightning block with a 120mm rad and small reservoirI will say while i could go back to the CPU being air cooled i could not go back to the GPU being air cooled.Reply -
SchizoFrog Just got to love these so called 'full cover water blocks' that only cover 80% or less of a GPU card. Yes, they may cover all the necessary components on the PCB but it looks half finished and leaves the card looking ugly with the exposed components that remain and for the money you pay, would it be too much to ask to extend it to cover the full length of the GPU?Reply -
tcb1005 Do you ever have to clean out your water loop? If so, I think I would go with the air cooled.Reply -
Crashman
This one has been clean for years because it contains antifreeze and has all copper parts. My mixed aluminum/copper systems were horrrrrrrible for building up crud.12852347 said:Do you ever have to clean out your water loop? If so, I think I would go with the air cooled.
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dgingeri That math seems wrong to me. Sure, the card, the water cooler, and the backplate are the right components, but since it doesn't come with an air cooler, and the water cooler is less complicated to put on, and the fact that the water cooler is more reliable due to now having a fan, it seems to me that the water cooled version should be cheaper, or at the very least the same price as an air cooled version. This is a ripoff.Reply -
Crashman
Thanks, but VisionTek doesn't make the cooler, they buy it. Same with the card, they buy that with the air cooler and I've never paid more than $20 for "overstock" replacement coolers on eBay.12853738 said:That math seems wrong to me. Sure, the card, the water cooler, and the backplate are the right components, but since it doesn't come with an air cooler, and the water cooler is less complicated to put on, and the fact that the water cooler is more reliable due to now having a fan, it seems to me that the water cooled version should be cheaper, or at the very least the same price as an air cooled version. This is a ripoff.
Go look at the price of the acrylic/nickel block and the backplate. Assume they're stockpiling the leftover air coolers at some cost and will sell them in the far future for about the cost of stockpiling them.
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dgingeri So, you're telling me they buy the cards with the air coolers pre-installed and then replace them with the waterblock? That's about the most asinine idea ever. They could easily buy the cards from an OEM supplier, like Sapphire, without the cooler and just add the water block. The air coolers are more expensive than $20, that's for sure. The copper alone is probably worth $15, just for recycle value. (I got $15 each from a copper recycler for a couple server CPU coolers I pulled from a dead server someone asked me to recycle a couple weeks ago, and those were less copper than I've seen on most GPU coolers these days. The CPU coolers were just a 1/4" plate barely bigger than the CPU socket with 1" tall thin fins soldered onto it.) A GPU cooler for an R9 290 is probably about $40-50 to the card maker, maybe $10 less than that water block. They'd save a bunch getting the card from an OEM supplier without the air cooler and installing the waterblock. If they're actually doing as you say, they're wasting tons of money, and the management should probably be fired for incompetence.Reply -
Crashman
Until recently the only way to buy cards was complete from AMD. And the cooler it came with was incredibly cheap.12854116 said:So, you're telling me they buy the cards with the air coolers pre-installed and then replace them with the waterblock? That's about the most asinine idea ever. They could easily buy the cards from an OEM supplier, like Sapphire, without the cooler and just add the water block. The air coolers are more expensive than $20, that's for sure. The copper alone is probably worth $15, just for recycle value. (I got $15 each from a copper recycler for a couple server CPU coolers I pulled from a dead server someone asked me to recycle a couple weeks ago, and those were less copper than I've seen on most GPU coolers these days. The CPU coolers were just a 1/4" plate barely bigger than the CPU socket with 1" tall thin fins soldered onto it.) A GPU cooler for an R9 290 is probably about $40-50 to the card maker, maybe $10 less than that water block. They'd save a bunch getting the card from an OEM supplier without the air cooler and installing the waterblock. If they're actually doing as you say, they're wasting tons of money, and the management should probably be fired for incompetence.
AMD recently released these to distribution by manufacturing partners, so maybe they can now get them bare. But they couldn't when these were launched, and this is a launch card. Since I don't know the full details of AMD's recent move, I cannot comment further.