How is it "Built" for vista. Using one right now (Not Palit mind you) on Win XP Pro and its butter.

"Despite the different memory helpings, both cards offer the usual Nvidia goodness gamers have come to know and love, including Nvidia's PhysX and CUDA technologies."

Wow kevin, the second article today that you spew this crap. Cuda and PhysX isnt the finest thing since sliced bread. Infact, PhysX divides your graphic card's computational cycles between PhysX and Graphics, slowing games down in most instances, while Nvidia cuts out the best PhysX option, the seperate PPU. And second, Cuda has hardly any compatable bug free programs, and they're all way way to expensive. Both things are just exuberant amounts of propaganda from Nvidia to get them to buy their overpriced GPUs.

Or have they threatened to black list you too, best of media?

I don't know about that, Curnel_D. I mean, both Mirror's Edge and Unreal Tournament 3 show rather nice eye candy with PhysX enabled. Sure, it cuts your frames, but it's better than running it on a CPU, and you could always get another card. In fact, if you already have one nVidia card, you could get a second nVidia card, that doesn't have to be the same mind you, and have that one focus on just PhysX, so you don't really see a drop.

As for CUDA, sure, it's not perfect yet. But if you use the Adobe CS4 suite, or you just transcode a lot of video, spending ~$20 more on an nVidia card for equal frames, but a significant boost in those other applications isn't that bad.

Please fire Kevin Parrish.

It's a DX10 card, and DX10 is available only in Vista. I'm guessing that's what they meant.

Of course your card works on XP, just like my 8800GTX works on XP, but we're losing some eye candy when running in DX9.

"According to the company, its GTX 285 2 GB graphics card is the first in the industry to offer such a heavy load of memory, however consumers who don't have that kind of cash to thrash can option to buy the neglected step-child, the Palit GTX 285 1 GB version."

Uh...neglected step-child? Where are the numbers to show how many of either of these cards are getting bought? And what the hell is "cash to thrash", anyways?

If your going to write about your opinions on things, then say so from the get go and don't try to make this look like a serious news article.

Wait, first to have 2gb?

4870x2 has 2gb -.-

nvidiot article.

There are plenty of Radeon cards with interesting modifications too.
(4850x2 2GB, toxic/ atomic cards)

That's still a retarded thing to say, and not only makes multiple fallacious logical jumps, but then wraps it up with a false and misleading statement.

Seconded.

This is kind of funny.

Booo-hoo. Have you ever even used Windows Vista? or are you just trying to be "Cool"?


Damn, I was gonna try to jam a PCI-E card into my old AGP system.

Is it a slow news day?

Sure, PhysX has redeaming qualities, and I wont argue that it doesnt. But killing the best thing it had going for it (The seperate physics processing unit), just to add it to their current lineup of cards (Effectively reducing frame rates in any PhysX enabled games because of the load on the GPU), AND block ATI users from using physX in vista (In XP, you can use an ATI for main graphics, and an Nvidia for physX), and all of this just to increase sales on their aging gaming card lineup (At the time, btw. I know they've updated.) isnt consumer friendly at all.

This combined with the fact that I cant stand most PhysX games makes trumpeting in PhysX just stupid.

CUDA "will" be an awesome Technology. But on the same hand, ATI is doing the same exact thing with OpenCL, which will either be just as good, if not better because of it's open nature. The funny thing is, OpenCL will run on Intel, ATI, and Nvidia hardware. So I'm guessing adoption rate will be through the roof compared to the proprietary CUDA.

But a HUGE thing to remember is the fact that Nvidia is currently black-listing anyone who doesnt comply with their propaganda.
http://www.overclock.net/hardware- [...] nesty.html

And for firing Kevin Parrish, you have a third from me.

Tom'shas become a biased sh*tty site. This is complete garbage. Wow is all I can say. This aught to get me banned for life....

It won't.

If you want a ban, post sum cp.

It's the first single GPU to have 2GB. Radeon 4870x2 has 2x1GB, 1 GB for each GPU (same as the 4850x2). It's not the same as having 2 GB. Each GPU on the 4870x2 still has a 1 GB limit for textures, etc. where the 2GB GTX 285 has 2 GB of memory for textures. This will especially benefit at high resolutions (2560x1600) with AA and AF enabled.

What's the price tag?

Over 9000.

It is odd the make a statement about cash thrashing when no numbers have been quoted. I can't find any numbers, but I doubt the difference in price between the 1 and 2 gig version would be so large that the 2 gig version would be considered "cash thrashing" while the 1 gig version would not.

I enjoy the comments. Partly because they piss so many of you off for some reason. Yay for cynics.

Wait, the comments piss so many people off?

I'd say, more often then not, the articles piss people off. Although, when the article pisses people off, people usually end up making stupid comments about it that piss other people off.

But I agree. Pissed off people are often hilarious. I'm sure you'd make a great Troll.

Well I've never tried trolling or anything of the sort before, but thanks... I guess?

Go to /b/, test your skills.

Wrong Adobe CS4 and Cuda is a propaganda bullshit, since the GPU doesn`t help at all Premiere CS4 at any transcoding .. for that you`ll have to buy an Nvidia CX card that comes witha CUDA enabled codec to transcode HD material ... and that CX card costs 2000$ it won`t run on regual gaming cards. And for real time editing there are better alternatives and cheaper at 1500$ you can get a Matrox RT.X 2 card that does much more than Nvidia CX card.

Exactly. CUDA has nothing going for it, aside from Nvidia's mouth. And the mouths of either 'dedicated', or intimidated journalists like Mr. Kevin Parrish.

Both CUDA and PhysX are totally anti-consumer. And not only that, they'll both fail miserably on the same track they're on.

Ahhh i see, but i thought, the 280,285,and the 295 were dual gpu's...

Nope, just the 295. The 280 is a single, and the 285 is a revision of the 280.

I agree with the majority here. Stick to facts and quit being such an ass kisser and blatent lier or, are you just dumb? Nvidia as of late has just been showing their ugly colors to me and I know they have been shady for awhile but, lately I have been noticing it plain as day every where I go. I say stick to making the fastest cards and fastest chipsets "never going to happen, another story" and we will all buy your shiat but, not at to high of a price we wont't I will add. I can tell whether or not something is worth the money I am about to pay for it and their cards are way over priced. I have two 4870 1GB cards in crossfire and this is because they were the best priced performance card when I was ready to shop around. I had a 8800GTS 512 right before I bought these, which were priced nicely IMHO. I am not a fan boy here either, I like to consider my self a smart shopper. Those are my two cents like it or not.

And if current Nvidia trends continue, you'll see the current GTX line rebranded all the way until the GTX 4xx series.

Finally, a card that can run GTA IV; my 4870 1GB barely crank out 27 fps at max setting. Although I have to wait for it to drop below $200 as I don't buy parts over $200.

It is amazing that they plan to rebrand multiple rebrands. I'll be fed up with Nvidia if they get to the 4xx and still rebranding the likes of the 8xxx's

Yeah GTX250 link you posted earlier really stinks of corporate bullying and anti consumer practices.

I have no problems with NIVDIA repackaging the 9800GTX+ as the GTX250 to differentiate it with the smaller die but then to increase the price when it in fact costs you less and then not tell anyone is B.S.