The Ethereum Effect: Graphics Card Price Watch (Updated)

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Michael Justin Allen Sexton is a Contributing Writer for Tom's Hardware US. He covers hardware component news, specializing in CPUs and motherboards.
  • bit_user
    19911947 said:
    The Ethereum Effect: Graphics Card Price Watch (Updated) : Read more
    Thanks for the updates. Especially reaching out to manufacturers for comments.

    BTW, I still think the GTX 1070 MSRP should be made current, as it would better show how much the current prices are inflated.
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  • IInuyasha74
    19912181 said:
    19911947 said:
    The Ethereum Effect: Graphics Card Price Watch (Updated) : Read more
    Thanks for the updates. Especially reaching out to manufacturers for comments.

    BTW, I still think the GTX 1070 MSRP should be made current, as it would better show how much the current prices are inflated.

    No problem, glad you enjoy the article. I saw you asked several times in the last comment page for us to do so. We were in the process of talking to them already, but we like to keep these things quiet until we have enough ready to publish so unfortunately I couldn't say anything sooner.

    I thought about doing it for the GTX 1070, but prices never quiet settled on the $350 price. A few dropped down to between $330 and $350, but most remained at $350-$400, so I feel the original MSRP better represents what the card has cost to date. I did adjust the GTX 1080s MSRP to what Nvidia set it at after the GTX 1080 TI launched though, as those certainly have dropped in price. Even through this shortage, they are priced very competitively.
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  • InvalidError
    19912181 said:
    BTW, I still think the GTX 1070 MSRP should be made current, as it would better show how much the current prices are inflated.
    MSRPs are what the manufacturers think their products' retail price should be for general market and consumer guidance, not a representation of actual street prices. Manufacturers rarely update MSRPs after launch unless there is a disruptive shift in the competitive landscape forcing them to review their margins.
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  • Ncogneto
    Any chance of ever seeing a review of the motherboards tailored for mining? Be an interesting read......
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  • bit_user
    19913159 said:
    Manufacturers rarely update MSRPs after launch unless there is a disruptive shift in the competitive landscape forcing them to review their margins.
    Yes, like how Nvidia repriced lower-end models when they launched the GTX 1080 Ti. That's what we're talking about, here. Not quite sure what you're on about.
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  • bit_user
    19912225 said:
    19912181 said:
    BTW, I still think the GTX 1070 MSRP should be made current, as it would better show how much the current prices are inflated.
    I thought about doing it for the GTX 1070, but prices never quiet settled on the $350 price. A few dropped down to between $330 and $350, but most remained at $350-$400, so I feel the original MSRP better represents what the card has cost to date. I did adjust the GTX 1080s MSRP to what Nvidia set it at after the GTX 1080 TI launched though, as those certainly have dropped in price. Even through this shortage, they are priced very competitively.
    Put what you want, but just make the column heading consistent. Don't call it the MSRP if it's not.

    If you want to put where entry-level prices settled after the GTX 1080 Ti's launch, do it. But then the column heading should be something like Typical Price on May 15th (or whenever you decide prices generally bottomed out).
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  • 10tacle
    Not all is bad with this mining craze. It wasn't that long ago that we, the PC gamer master race, started worrying about the future of PC gaming and CPU/GPU manufacturers as consoles started increasing in popularity between the PS3/4 and XBox 360/One. You guys remember all the "PC gaming is slowly dying" hysteria. I don't see how this 21st Century gold rush of cryptocurrency mining can be bad for AMD, Intel, and Nvidia.

    Then of course there is the used GPU market. I recently sold my SLI 970s for $480. Two months ago and prior, they were maxed out selling on eBay for $150. I took that money and bought an EVGA 1080Ti SC2 Gaming for $740 (NewEgg). My original plan was waiting for the consumer level Voltas to come out next year, but this seller's market on recent generation mid-tier and above GPUs is just way too hard to pass up. Especially as one being on the fence on upgrading or waiting.

    It's almost like being the reverse of a stock buyer who snaps up cheap stocks when the market hits bottom (like smart people did with AMD). Sell high and run!
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  • redgarl
    You make more by buying Nvidia and AMD stock than investing in mining. I just made 1000$ over my 10.43$ stock from AMD to this morning 14$.
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  • bit_user
    19925696 said:
    You make more by buying Nvidia and AMD stock than investing in mining. I just made 1000$ over my 10.43$ stock from AMD to this morning 14$.
    You can get lucky a few times, but it's hard to repeatedly time the market well.

    So, when there's a relatively stable payout, whether it's dividends or burning watts for crypto coins (especially if you're not paying the electric bill), then it has certain advantages.
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  • bit_user
    19927972 said:
    What if the banks start buying all the internet coins in the market (and they can ) and then control the internet currency as well ?
    With crypto-currencies classed as assets, I think many investment banks already own some.

    They can't buy all, because that would be like buying all the gold in the world. You'd run out of money, first. Even if you had enough money to buy it all at the beginning, the price would start to go up as you bought more.

    And I still don't really see what this accomplishes. If someone bought enough bitcoin (for example) to destroy its liquidity, then people could just create another cryptocurrency that's similar (perhaps even forked from bitcoin's very codebase). Meanwhile, what does the bank gain? Banks don't really care which currency wins - it's the governments who care about that.

    19927972 said:
    central banks controlling people money and economy.
    Eh, central banks basically just control interest rates and inflation. Not to downplay those two factors, but there are more interesting government activities & policies that shape economies: budgets, taxation, subsidies, investments, social programs (health care, social security, unemployment insurance, welfare), business laws, trade policies, accounting rules, banking rules (leverage, risk exposure), etc.
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