Don't waste money on a high-end graphics card right now — RTX 4090 is a terrible deal
The cards are going for more than $2,000 while next-gen products are coming soon.
The Black Friday deals are in full swing, stretching from a week or two before the actual date until Cyber Monday and beyond. One thing you won't find as a real deal: Nvidia's RTX 4090, or for that matter, most of the Ada Lovelace RTX 40-series GPUs, AMD's RDNA 3 RX 7000-series GPUs, and even Intel's Arc Alchemist GPUs.
While many of these are still technically among the best graphics cards, it's no secret that all three GPU manufacturers are planning to launch their next-gen architectures within the near future. And with RTX 4090 prices skyrocketing — they're often starting far above $2,000, never mind the original $1,599 MSRP — the best advice for anyone looking to buy a high-end GPU is to wait. Meanwhile, there are several deals to be had for Black Friday on lower-end cards.
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12G (Rev2.0): now $263.41 on Amazon (was $319.99)
This budget GPU will let you enjoy Ultra quality gaming on 1080p without breaking the bank. Its factory overclock and triple-fan cooling solution will let you get the most performance out of this discrete GPU.
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Gaming OC 8G: now $284.97 on Amazon (was $319.99)
The RTX 4060 is currently Nvidia's best budget GPU, perfect for mainstream 1080p gaming. It offers 20% better performance over the previous-generation RTX 3060, while supporting DLSS 3.0.
Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang will give the keynote at CES 2025, where he's widely expected to reveal the consumer range of Blackwell GPUs — or at least the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080. The cards themselves will likely go on sale before the end of January. For that reason, we're seeing more and more RTX 4090s appearing as out-of-stock and prices on them skyrocketing, even as they near the end of their life. It seems like Nvidia may have limited or stopped production on them in anticipation of the next-gen launch.
Prices on the 5090, in particular, could be sky-high, meaning perhaps a $1,999 MSRP (though that's just a ballpark guess), but considering the 4090 already sells for that much, why not wait for what could be a true behemoth of a GPU? Hopefully, the RTX 5080 comes in closer to $999, though we suspect it's more likely to inherit the $1,199 MSRP of its predecessor — and depending on performance, it could go higher than that (but let's hope not).
There are also rumors that Nvidia could be planning a sooner-than-later release of an RTX 5070 Ti, possibly in January or February. If that matches the outgoing generation on pricing, it would still be a $799 MSRP — definitely high-end — but presumably with a decent performance uplift over the existing RTX 4070 Ti Super as well.
AMD's RDNA 4 GPUs are coming as well, though rumors are less concrete about when they'll arrive and what their specs might be. The most solid information indicates that AMD won't be going after the crown with a halo product, but that's hardly news — the RX 7900 XTX didn't try to take down the RTX 4090 either. Will there be an 8900 XTX (or maybe 9900 XTX if AMD decides to align its names again) that delivers higher performance than the current 7900 XTX? Probably, but just as important will be the cost for whatever level of performance we get.
Intel's Battlemage GPUs meanwhile are rumored to start arriving as early as December — with reports that the first GPU will be the Arc B580. Based on the name alone, that appears to be the successor to the current Arc A580, a decidedly budget-oriented offering that currently costs $169, and importantly it will come with 12GB of VRAM according to leaks.
Presumably, there will also be Arc B770 or similar cards at some point with 16GB of memory. Based on our recent integrated graphics showdown, the Xe2 GPUs could offer a sizeable boost in performance over the current Intel GPUs, but there's also a massive gap right now in performance. Again, bang for the buck will be an important metric.
So, Intel will almost certainly target the budget to midrange segment, perhaps in the $200 to $300 range. How an Arc B580 will fare against cards like the existing RTX 4060 / 4060 Ti and RX 7600 XT / 7700 XT remains to be seen, but waiting another month or so can't hurt.
AMD could be targeting the midrange $500 to high-end $800–$1,000 range with the first RDNA 4 GPUs, and then Nvidia picks up from there with perhaps $800 to $2,000 GPUs. That pretty much covers the entire gamut of performance and price, so unless the deals are particularly tasty in the coming days, saving your pennies for a new GPU upgrade looks to be the most sensible advice.
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Jarred Walton is a senior editor at Tom's Hardware focusing on everything GPU. He has been working as a tech journalist since 2004, writing for AnandTech, Maximum PC, and PC Gamer. From the first S3 Virge '3D decelerators' to today's GPUs, Jarred keeps up with all the latest graphics trends and is the one to ask about game performance.
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hotaru251 will they get cheaper though?Reply
Tariff's might increase cost people ask for em both new & used/scalped. -
bit_user
For how long, though? If demand for a RTX 4090 is this strong, even though it's 2 years old and about to be replaced, what do you think the chances are of even finding a RTX 5090, when it launches? And then how much will it finally cost, if/when you do get one?The article said:the best advice for anyone looking to buy a high-end GPU is to wait.
With a bigger die, I doubt it will be cheaper. I think the best we can reasonably hope for is that it launches at the same price point.The article said:Hopefully the RTX 5080 comes in closer to $999, though we suspect it's more likely to inherit the $1,199 MSRP of its predecessor
As for the stuff about AMD and Intel, the rumors about their performance don't really justify mentioning them in the same article as RTX 5090 & 5080. -
DS426 The 4090 is especially a terrible deal when one considers that the 4080 Super can be had right now at many places for $1,000, at least in the US. Even at $1,200, I'm pretty sure it's value is on par or better than a >$2,000 4090.Reply
We'll just have to wait and see if scalpers are successful in jacking up the price of the 5090. -
bit_user
Tariffs are going to be quite a wildcard. Even though we can look at what's been said about them, I still think it's too early to try and guess how they will actually play out.hotaru251 said:Tariff's might increase cost -
stonecarver
That's a factor heavy on my mind as well. I'm not in panic mode about it but not keeping a blind eye to it as well.bit_user said:Tariffs are going to be quite a wildcard. Even though we can look at what's been said about them, I still think it's too early to try and guess how they will actually play out. -
JarredWaltonGPU
I'm pretty sure it will play out exactly as it did last time: graphics card assembly will be pushed out of China and into other places, so that the cards aren't "made in China" and can thus avoid tariffs. If you look at what actually happened previously, a few companies massively increased prices in the short term and then had to find alternative routes that would avoid the tariffs to remain competitive with other companies.bit_user said:Tariffs are going to be quite a wildcard. Even though we can look at what's been said about them, I still think it's too early to try and guess how they will actually play out. -
DS426
Agreed. We don't know what final rates will be, on exactly what all items and components. There will also be differences in short, medium, and long-term pricing as supply chains are reworked.bit_user said:Tariffs are going to be quite a wildcard. Even though we can look at what's been said about them, I still think it's too early to try and guess how they will actually play out.
It's not a political matter to ask the philosophical question: did we really think we could go forever on costs that are held artificially low? -
bit_user
Again, not to say what will happen, but what's been said is to have a blanket import tariff. So, only moving them to US (or maybe Mexico/Canada, if the USMCA holds edit: as of now, that looks unlikely) would avoid them. Obviously, on-shoring that much manufacturing is virtually impossible, especially in a compressed timeframe and not to mention the promised mass-deportations of the very workers who would probably comprise most of the factory workforce. While these are problems that can be worked through, sorting out the inefficiencies would take much longer, and short-term costs would probably far exceed the 20% overhead of the tariffs, if not also in the medium and longer term.JarredWaltonGPU said:I'm pretty sure it will play out exactly as it did last time: graphics card assembly will be pushed out of China and into other places, so that the cards aren't "made in China" and can thus avoid tariffs.
However, let's also not forget the carve-out that was made for certain electronic components, which is why the PC sector didn't feel the brunt of the tariffs, last time. Just like back then, I think there's not the political will to truly impose a 20% blanket import tax.
And with that, I'm just going to sit back and watch how things unfold, like @stonecarver said.
If you really want to get into it, you ought to look at the tariffs on metals, which did not have any "alternative routes", and see how it affected US companies who were big consumers of those commodities.JarredWaltonGPU said:If you look at what actually happened previously, a few companies massively increased prices in the short term and then had to find alternative routes that would avoid the tariffs to remain competitive with other companies. -
bit_user
It's simpler than that: trade deficits can't be sustained indefinitely. That's not prescribing what to do about them, it's just stating an economic fact.DS426 said:It's not a political matter to ask the philosophical question: did we really think we could go forever on costs that are held artificially low? -
DavidLejdar
Mercantilism is dated. Sure, trade deficit may not sound great. But imports create additional value, like a company which can output something with the laptops they bought, and not missing out on staff that would be needed to put them laptops together.bit_user said:It's simpler than that: trade deficits can't be sustained indefinitely. That's not prescribing what to do about them, it's just stating an economic fact.
Then there is also the thing, that it may be U.S. shareholders, who take most of the profit of a factory e.g. in Mexico.
And in case of Mexico, imports to Mexico from the U.S., that's more than 300 billion there yearly, likely largely paid by money made from exports to the U.S. - That's a lot of money, that may not be circulating soon.
Btw, in central Europe, there used to be some 1,800 customs areas, until the Zollverein was created in 1834 (one of the founding members was Prussia*). And it boosted the economy, while states didn't miss out on income, as a lot of that comes here from VAT / sales tax.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia%E2%80%93United_States_relations