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Intel Atom Support Returns in Latest Mac OS X

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Hackintosh people rejoice!

Earlier in the week, we learned that a developer build of Snow Leopard 10.6.2 is incompatible with netbooks running the Intel Atom.

Melkort, a programmer known for his works on the Dell Mini netbooks, wrote in the MyDellMini forum, "It does turn out that the 10.6.2 kernel reboots before it's finished loading (before the bsd subsystem is initialized I believe). Might be a chameleon thing, might be an atom thing (as I haven't tested it on any other machines). I'm looking into it, but the 10.6.0 / 10.6.1 kernel works fine with 10.6.2."

This sent the Hackintosh community in a minor scramble as theories of Apple's proactive blocking of Mac OS X loaded on non-Apple computers.

Mac OS X is designed and supported to only run on Apple's machines, but a notable percentage of the netbook community has shoehorned the operating system into their modest portables. Thanks the Apple's use of Intel hardware, certain models of netbooks – such as Dell's Mini 9 and 10v – are fairly comfortable running Mac OS X.

It seemed that all the panic may be unwarranted, however, as Intel Atom support is back in the latest (10C535) build of Mac OS X 10.6.2. It's unclear as to what Apple was playing around with from version to version, but those with Hackintosh computers get a new glimmer of hope.

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Hellbound 11/05/2009 8:48 PM
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Knowing how Apple is, I will never purchase their products.

Glorian 11/05/2009 8:52 PM
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Apple needs to just give in and start letting people install their os, they could actually start making more money and encroach further on the pc market. If they do I will definitely install osx on my old pc.

But you know they won't, that' s why a lot of people hate them.

wildwell 11/05/2009 9:02 PM
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I hope this isn't temporary.

Reminder, Tom's is currently conducting a poll for a Mac OSX forum:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/32340-12-forum

digitalrazoe 11/05/2009 9:06 PM
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Apples hardware architecture is "closed" where as you deal with MSI, ASUS, ASRock, EVGA, etc. is some what open ... where as Intel, nVidia and AMD has their reference systems ( or one of the mentioned ( and not mentioned )) The minute differences is enough to bring rocksolid stability or hair pulling instability to any system. ( I had to ditch a motherboard with an old VIA chipset because it was rocksolid running windows 7 but blue chunks running any flavor of linux I through at it so I can only imagine what would happen if I tried to run OS-X !) Apple should open up on the system level .. hell they used the same damned chips minus some rom hooks they put in their own system. This would weed out some of the "not so good" mobo manufactures or make them step up!

sstym 11/05/2009 9:13 PM
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This is actually interesting. It looks like Apple did not intentionally block hackint0sh netbooks but just screwed up on an update.
Given the fact they only have to test their OS on the hardware configurations they sell, it is not surprising that OSX would have some issues on the vast majority of untested hardware.

Now imagine the uproar if Microsoft pulled something like this. They can't afford it, because their OS HAS TO WORK on almost every x86 processor available, be it Intel, AMD or Via (and I'm not even counting video cards, sound cards, RAID cards, WiFi adapaters, etc.).

I think this illustrates how easy Apple has it compared to Microsoft when debugging and testing their OS. As more people strive to install OSX on a wider range of hardware, this is going to get more common.

digitalrazoe 11/05/2009 9:21 PM
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I am sooo glad via is out of the chipset making biz... makes porting OSes to other boards much simpler... hey .. remember when you could buy WinNT on MIPS, Dec Alpha, Sparc, PowerPC And what ever came your way? I miss those days !!!

doc70 11/05/2009 9:27 PM
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this goes to show you that MacOS is actually very immature and Completely unprepared to take on any other OS, including Win or Linux distros. I mean, one could easily find support in linux for all kind of hardware, but if it is not natively supported by Apple, goodluck saying the same for MacOS.
Also, as someone said before, the more "wild" MacOS installations out there, the more exploits/hacks/vulnerabilities will be found... just wait and see.

rooket 11/05/2009 9:31 PM
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I get kernel panic when trying to install this lousy o/s on my dell laptop. not really too keen on it so far.. looks like i'd have to install the older version onto my desktop and then make the memory stick boot loader.. a lot of work to cripple my laptop with mac osx ;) lol. my laptop loves windows 7.

rooket 11/05/2009 9:32 PM
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I get kernel panic when trying to install this lousy o/s on my dell laptop. not really too keen on it so far.. looks like i'd have to install the older version onto my desktop and then make the memory stick boot loader.. a lot of work to cripple my laptop with mac osx ;) lol. my laptop loves windows 7.

christop 11/05/2009 11:17 PM
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I knew it was a total sham for them to say they are killing netbooks with atoms.. Nice lie.... Fail again

digitalrazoe 11/05/2009 11:38 PM
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Control is nice .. but its really up to the consumer .... Total control does reduce the amount of errors that a system may have when introducing new versions of OSes HOWEVER if there is a bunch of people like me they want to pick and choose their own hardware ( mobo, chip, vid card so on and so forth.) I dont think it would be too much to ask Apple to have an open version of their Mac OS for systems other than those blessed by Apple I am not talking about Darwin. I am talking about a version of Mac OS that works for all systems ( buyer beware...)

bachok83 11/06/2009 3:00 AM
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I have tried Mac OS X numerous times. I cannot recall how many times i have tried and always find myself going back to the good ol' windows.

intesx 11/06/2009 3:11 AM
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Glorian :
Apple needs to just give in and start letting people install their os...



Apple will never do this because OSX's glaring limitations, like any other OS, would suddently come to light.

Like any operating system that's designed to be installed on any random computer with one of a billion hardware configurations... with drivers from who knows what company, written by a less than skilled coder... OSX would end up just as potentially unstable as Windows Anyversion when installed on junk hardware. Apple would lose their ability to limit the hardware choice and thereby increase the possibility of things going wrong.

kingssman 11/06/2009 4:26 AM
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Dear Apple.
I seem to have trouble installing your software onto my latest piece of third party hardware. The hardware is not supported nor licensed for use by your company, in fact its not an apple certified product at all. In your latest Mac Update that seemed to fix issues with other mac hardware, you inadvertently created a bug that prevented your operating system from running on my dell atom netbook. Understanding that you don't support dell hardware, nor ever intended your software to be ran on dell, I'm still blaming you for this

lolololol pllzzzzz fix the OS
sincerely
hackintosh user.

greenbuck 11/06/2009 5:20 AM
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Quote :Apple needs to just give in and start letting people install their os, they could actually start making more money and encroach further on the pc market. If they do I will definitely install osx on my old pc.


The problem with this is that Apple would have to spend tremendous amount of money to get OS X to run and support hundreds of hardware configurations. Apple do not have the backbone to do this. If they did, their OS X will be more bloated, slugish, error prone, and virus prone than Windows. Everyone will see how inferior OS X truly is compared Windows. Apple does not want that. Plus, I don't think Apple programmers have the technical ability to do all that.

g-thor 11/06/2009 5:56 AM
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Here's a possible theory for Apple. Let anyone who wants to, buy your OS. But, they only get support if it's on Apple hardware. This way, the hackintosh crowd get what they want, and you get to sell your OS and keep the money, but you don't have any support costs related to it. That becomes pure profit to you.

Just a thought.

Nik_I 11/06/2009 6:51 PM
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if apple let its OS be installed on a PC, i would absolutely go out and buy a legal copy to try it out. They could increase their profits exponentially if they eased up the restrictions on its software.

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