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Best Value Conclusion

System Builder Marathon, Dec. 2009: System Value Compared
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People often discuss efficiency in terms of energy, but cost efficiency replaces performance per watt with performance per dollar. That calculation method is certain to provide a numeric value, but doesn’t indicate whether or not the product is suitable to any particular market. Thus, the following chart must be accompanied by a full examination of each system’s ultimate capabilities.

The cheapest PC normally wins any value comparison and is thus used as the baseline (100%) for comparing all others. However, its value win this month is rather small, at 3% over the $1,300 PC when both are used at their stock speeds. Yet, the cheapest system was also the one with the most factory-underclocked CPU, responding most aggressively to the overclocking efforts of its builder.

This is the point where questions about the adequacy of such a cheap system would normally center on a look at gaming capabilities. But Paul Henningsen surprised us by fitting two formerly high-end Radeon HD 4870 graphics cards and the enormous power supply needed to support these within the tight confines of his budget. The $700 system breezed through most games at a super-tough 2560x1600 pixel resolution, and was able to add advanced features at playable frame rates when dropping to a still-respectable 1920x1200 setting. Indeed, only the fussiest gamers need more.

Instead, we must look at our productivity suite to see that the $700 really is slower in daily use. All three systems were built as full-function performance systems rather than purpose-built gaming machines, and users who do real work on their systems will definitely be disappointed by the cheapest system’s Pentium E5300 processor, even when overclocked. It also comes up a little short in the area of storage for an all-purpose machine with 500GB of capacity, though a larger drive could be low-cost upgrade.

But the biggest strike against the $700 PC’s value win is that its inexpensive Radeon HD 4870 graphics cards are no longer available, and that the next model up adds $50 per card to the budget of anyone trying to replicate this system. An $835 actual price would have allowed the $1,300 PC to match it in today’s value charts.

The real winner today is Don Woligroski’s $1,300 machine. With an extra 140GB storage and an application-boosting Core i5-750, the majority of users should be quite pleased with its overall usefulness. Its Radeon HD 5850 graphics cards performed almost on-par with the Radeon HD 5870 cards used by the $2,500 machine, and it even beat the bigger system in a few benchmarks. Best of all, its excellent initial value is matched by energy efficiency that increases its value over a lifetime of operation.

Finally there’s the big loser of today’s comparison, the $2,500 build. When faced with the choice between SSD drives with inadequate capacity or high-capacity drives and no SSD, its builder picked the fastest-possible desktop hard drives as a compromise. But those drives are twice as large as most power users really need and, at three times the cost of slightly slower 1TB models, are both overkill and overpriced. This expense could have been put to better use in motherboard selection, as it appears the dual x8 pathways of its LGA 1156 platform are simply too weak to provide adequate bandwidth to such powerful graphics cards. Chosen for supposed overclocking superiority, its Core i7-860 processor was surprisingly inferior even to the $1,300 system's Core i5. Although, with no guarantees in overclocking, this may have been simply been "bad luck."

The $2,500 build wasn’t a total failure. Parts that continued to impress us with superb quality and excellent value include its Crucial DDR3-1333 memory, Lian-Li LanCool PC-K7B case, and Corsair CMPSU-850HX power supply. Combining these parts with an X58-based platform and an overclocked Core i7-920 processor could have allowed the Radeon HD 5870 graphics cards to approach their true performance potential. Yet this discussion is merely a distraction from today’s true winner, Don Woligroski’s $1,300 performance, efficiency, and value masterpiece.

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    DarkMantle , December 25, 2009 5:34 AM
    Great conclusion Thomas, good System Building Marathon overall. My only wish is to see something with an AMD processor next time, specially on the market segment where they shine.
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    shubham1401 , December 25, 2009 6:02 AM
    I am really impressed by the performance of $1300 PC.

    It came so close to the $2500 PC without breaking the bank.
    Simply awesome!!
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    noob2222 , December 25, 2009 7:07 AM
    typo on the last page, overclocked $650, not sure if that was the value used in the chart, might check that also.
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    ibnsina , December 25, 2009 7:13 AM
    Good conclusions..

    This article can get more interesting if you add previous [September’s ] systems data to the charts.
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    erdinger , December 25, 2009 7:45 AM
    Yes the previous systems would have been really nice to compare, espacially in the conclusion.
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    Crashman , December 25, 2009 8:04 AM
    ibnsinaGood conclusions..This article can get more interesting if you add previous [September’s ] systems data to the charts.


    Sorry, but that wouldn't be fair. First of all, September's systems used different benchmarks, settings, and OS. Second, September's systems used both AMD graphics that pre-date these, plus AMD processors, and people would have used the older graphics as an excuse to beat up on the CPU. AMD fans would have gone nuts as well, claiming the authors were trying to use the superior graphics of this SBM to skew readers against AMD. Tom's isn't interested in publishing invalid results or creating fake controversy.
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    Crashman , December 25, 2009 8:14 AM
    psycho sykesA question..Does those come with Windows 7 installed? Or they won't be real 700-1300-2500 machines.. Right?!


    Windows 7 was only installed for the benchmark analysis. For anyone who would like to copy one of the builds and still stay on budget, Ubuntu is suggested.
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    kick_pixels , December 25, 2009 9:30 AM
    Crashman
    [/quote]First of all, September's systems used different benchmarks. AMD fans would have gone nuts as well[/quote]

    If you compare the benchmarks, is more or less identical with 1-2 minor differences. What’s wrong with idea of comparing different configurations? I don’t agree with the thought of AMD fans getting upset about it, to contrary they will be happy about gaining new knowledge.
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    Onus , December 25, 2009 11:24 AM
    First of all, Merry Christmas everyone!
    Second of all, congratulations to Don. His tweaking contributed heavily to the superiority of the $1300 machine. The $700 machine pulled up lame when not gaming, and the $2500 machine was crippled by inadequate cooling.
    If I win the big guy, I'll put it in my CM-RC690 and see how it does. The little guy will get my Q9450, but Don's build just needs a better cooler.
    Nice series.
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    Niva , December 25, 2009 4:18 PM
    Merry xmas to the staff and thanks for writing these articles at an otherwise slow time of the year due to holidays. I've enjoyed reading them.
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    notty22 , December 25, 2009 4:23 PM
    I enjoyed the whole series. Popular hardware in different configurations, always interesting to read the results.
    I notice a lot of game players ask "will a cpu like the AMD 620 4x2.6 bottleneck a crossfire system of ie 5750,4850,5770". And the answer is evident in these benchmark results. YES, even the i5750 system with turbo liked o/c. All fps were very good except maybe the 700 dollar system at stock levels, but they all showed improvement with o/c. In these tests the o/c includes gpu o/c as well. It was bugging me, the 700 dollar system, using 2 4870's. I've been following prices diligently and I thought that was unrealistic, $250. I had suspicions that you snuck them in to make sure you beat the Sept system with 4850's. But a quick look this morning showed a Diamond 4870 for 129.99
    http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010069&prodlist=froogle
    Thats a great deal to build on.
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    Gryphyn , December 25, 2009 5:08 PM
    Love this series. Always a great read.
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    kick_pixels , December 25, 2009 5:42 PM
    Crashman "Windows 7 was only installed for the benchmark analysis. For anyone who would like to copy one of the builds and still stay on budget, Ubuntu is suggested."

    How many of those popular games will run on Ubuntu?
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    doron , December 25, 2009 5:45 PM
    I'm still upset about the 2500$ build.

    In addition to all the improper decisions you've mentioned in the conclusions page, the case was completely inadequate for this kind of high-end hardware (unless you mod it) and costs 2 times more (!!!) than the much more able antec 200.

    That by itself could allow buying 2 intake fans and a better cpu cooler, thus increasing overclocking by a big margin, consequently improving overall system performance.
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    Crashman , December 25, 2009 5:54 PM
    doronI'm still upset about the 2500$ build.In addition to all the improper decisions you've mentioned in the conclusions page, the case was completely inadequate for this kind of high-end hardware (unless you mod it) and costs 2 times more (!!!) than the much more able antec 200.


    It's nice when a case has enough room for both the graphics cards and the hard drives, not either/or.
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    arkadi , December 25, 2009 7:18 PM
    The conclusion makes up for the Hi-end build, I guess next Hi-end build will rock. As for the 700$ build...please consider AMD for the next one.
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    doron , December 25, 2009 7:47 PM
    @Crashman - Then how about Coolermaster 922 which costs 100$ on newegg?
    I know that's 10$ more but your afoermentioned case has the same 100$ price tag on newegg.

    Even better, for 90$ you could get a mighty Antec 900 (First gen) with all its 3x120mm + 1x200mm fans bundled.
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    Crashman , December 25, 2009 8:07 PM
    doron@Crashman - Then how about Coolermaster 922 which costs 100$ on newegg?I know that's 10$ more but your afoermentioned case has the same 100$ price tag on newegg.Even better, for 90$ you could get a mighty Antec 900 (First gen) with all its 3x120mm + 1x200mm fans bundled.


    Yeh, it's a good deal. Unfortunately it didn't fit within budget at order time, when the Lian-Li case was on sale for $80 and the total purchase was $2495.
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    arkadi , December 25, 2009 8:43 PM
    hmm i have an idea. Give us, toms readers option to choose builds in each segment. Post few configurations for each budget for a survey, and build the winer.
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    tacoslave , December 25, 2009 8:45 PM
    i would have loved to see the athlon 620 overclocked to 3.2 gigahertz instead of that shitty dual core. i mean a quad core makes sense to drive those 4870's.
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