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Updated CPU Charts 2008: AMD Versus Intel

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HardwareTechnical details
AMD motherboard(Socket AM2+)Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe WiFiRevision : 1.02GChip set : AMD790FX + SB600Bios : 1202 (07/03/2008)
Intel motherboard(Socket 775)Gigabyte X48T-DQ6Revision : 1.3Chip set : Intel X48 + ICH9Bios : F5 (07/21/2008)
DDR2 memoryAMD systemA-DATA DDR2-800+ (2x 2GB)Type : AD2800E002GUSet-up : DDR2-800 (CL 4.0-4-4-12-1T)
DDR3 memoryIntel systemA-DATA DDR3-1600 (2x 2GB)Type : AD31600X002GUSet-up : DDR3-1333 (CL 7.0-7-7-20)
Graphics cardMSI N280GTX-T2D1G-OCChip : Nvidia GeForce GTX280 (GT200)Chip clock rate : 650 MHzMemory : 1024 MB GDDR32300 MHz (512 Bit)
Blu-Ray-ROMPioneer BDC-202BKSATA150
Hard drivesCaviar SE 320 GB (WD3200AAKS)7.200 rpm, SATA300, 16 MB
Power supplyCoolermaster RS-850-EMBA850 Watt, ATX 12V 2.3
Sound cardCreative X-Fi Xtreme GamerChip : X-Fi Xtreme FidelityA/D converter : 96 kHz/24 Bit
USB stickCorsair Flash Voyager 4 GBWrite : 16 MB/secondRead : 33 MB/second
DriverDetails
ATI chip set 7.8Northbridge Filter Driver1.02.000.2IDE Driver5.1.0.8
Intel chip set9.0.0.1008 (6/2/2008)
Nvidia graphics card177.41 WHQL (06/26/2008)
Creative Audio Driver2.15.0006 (03/14/2008)
98 Comments Comment from the forums
  • Mucke 01 October 2008 16:17
    What about AMD Dual Cores?

    Especially the new Athlon 6500@3GHz would be interesting.

    By the way: the Intel-system uses DDR3-1333, AMD DDR2-1066; that makes some difference in the price (just like the mainboard).
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  • 01 October 2008 16:52
    Ok, this is not a fair benchmark for AMD.. your testing motherboard for AMD platform costs only 140 euros and the testing top-range motherboard for Intel Platform costs 250 euros!!! To be equally tested it should be tested on P35 Chipset with DDR2 RAM.
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  • cangelini 01 October 2008 17:08
    Yannis GROk, this is not a fair benchmark for AMD.. your testing motherboard for AMD platform costs only 140 euros and the testing top-range motherboard for Intel Platform costs 250 euros!!! To be equally tested it should be tested on P35 Chipset with DDR2 RAM.
    Yannis,

    Thank you for the feedback.

    It does not make sense to handicap the Intel platform simply because AMD's infrastructure is currently priced to compete with Intel's mid-range. This would completely eliminate the scores for higher-end configurations like Skulltrail and the Extreme Edition CPUs, providing an incomplete picture of the current processor landscape.
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  • Mucke 01 October 2008 17:36
    It does not make sense to handicap the Intel platform simply because AMD's infrastructure is currently priced to compete with Intel's mid-range. This would completely eliminate the scores for higher-end configurations like Skulltrail and the Extreme Edition CPUs, providing an incomplete picture of the current processor landscape.

    In the final charts the details "3.33 GHz, DDR3-1333 (Wolfdale)" could be supplemented by the price for the entire system. Then it would be fair (you might even include Intels with DDR2 and Athlon X2s as well -- that would make a great list!).
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  • apaige 01 October 2008 17:40
    The Linux OpenSSL results are completely out of whack (see http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=category&u=openssl for normal results). Intel results should be higher, and AMD results should be over *three* times higher. That's one benchmark where AMD processors have consistently shown to smoke Intel CPUs by a large margin. Something is definitely wrong with those results.

    Also, could you please give the exact command line for the LAME benchmark? And why do you keep on benchmarking it in CBR mode, even with the version bump, when all the work by its developers in recent years has essentially been on VBR mode? VBR is also highly recommended over CBR.
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  • Reynod 01 October 2008 18:03
    It looks to me like you mismatched the mobo, ram and also cherry picked the graphics settings for the games.

    Why ... well it make the little green guys look even worse.

    Bert you don't really need to cheat on the benchmarks to prove the Intel CPU's are generally better.

    We do know that.

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  • duzcizgi 01 October 2008 19:27
    cangeliniOne thing missing with the charts is, there's nosorting by price. Only then, your claim that test setups are fair, can hold ground.

    You have ordered the scores with fastest at the top, but what about order by price? Wouldn't it make more sense? If it's apples-apples comparison, then put apples against apples, not oranges. If it's price/performance comparison, then mention price differences also. How much both systems TCO is.
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  • sgtbaker420 01 October 2008 19:31
    BTW Guys...Supreme Commander Forged Alliance was misspelled in your charts.
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  • wavebossa 01 October 2008 20:16
    ReynodIt looks to me like you mismatched the mobo, ram and also cherry picked the graphics settings for the games.Why ... well it make the little green guys look even worse.Bert you don't really need to cheat on the benchmarks to prove the Intel CPU's are generally better.We do know that.
    You guys make it seem like not getting the fastest mobo and ram would make a real difference in these benchmanrks.

    If they didn't mismatch, what would you have wanted them to do? Only show the intel procs/setups that are closer in perfomance to AMD? If they did that, the Intel fans would whine about the lack of good intel setups.

    However I still believe you made a mistake. Instead of using the M3A32 for AMD, you should have used the M3A79 or another SB750 based bored due the fact that many benchmarks have already proven the SB750 dominance over its earlier counterpart.

    All in all, good article.
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  • v12v12 01 October 2008 20:18
    Sounds like a bunch of AMD whining... blah blah "fair" this and that, AMD is inferior and everyone knows it. Hell I'm writing this on an X2 Turion, face the FACTs and stop trying to hold onto former AMDominance: AMD is toast until it completely reinvents itself, crying and whining about "fair" is a moot point. The REAL point is—for the money, Intel IS the better buy and will be for the foreseeable future (Nehalem anyone?)... the only thing stopping AMD is AMD themselves and mismanagement, which has been documented and proven. I don't like the Evil-Intel-Empire as much as the AMD-zealots, but they are proving to be the leaders of CPU technology... If AMD does have an answer for Nehalem and a reasonable (provable) road map, then we'll all benefit in price competition... Until then the whining is lame.
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