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Next newsDetails have emerged over future launch dates and expected price changes for Intel processors over the coming months.
According to Digitimes, details regarding Intel’s desktop processor roadmap for the upcoming months have been disclosed by sources at motherboard manufacturers. Along with plenty of expected price cuts in the months ahead, several new product introductions and discontinuations are also expected.
The first change to be expected will come on October 19, with the launch of the Core 2 Duo E7400. Price cuts are also expected on that day for the Core 2 Quad Q8200, Quad Q6600, Duo E7300, and Pentium E2220 and E2200 processors. The expected pricing for these processors was not mentioned.
Sometime during November it is expected Intel will release its next-generation of processors under the branding Core i7. There are only three Core i7 processors expected in 2008 and they will target upper mainstream and performance users. The Core i7 965 XE will be an Extreme Edition processor running at 3.20 GHz, featuring an 8 MB cache and will be priced at $999. The Core i7 940 will run at 2.93 GHz, feature an 8 MB cache and cost $562. The most affordable Core i7 will be the 920, with a 2.66 GHz clock-speed, an 8 MB cache and a $284 price-tag. All three processors feature four-cores, a 130 W TDP and will offer a substantial performance increase over current Core 2 processors.
The next change on Intel’s roadmap comes on November 30, with the introduction of three new processors. The Core 2 Quad Q8300 will launch at a price of $224 and will offer a clock-speed of 2.5 GHz with a 4 MB cache. Also then available will be the Pentium E5300, offering good value at $86, featuring a 2.6 GHz clock-speed with a 2 MB cache. Lastly, the Celeron E1500 will be released with a 2.2 GHz clock-speed and will be priced at $53.
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So many processors to choose from right...
Now LOL
core i7 is not a substantial improvement over core 2 processors... its just not, sure in some areas, but in most its not really what it should have been to be the next core 2
Well we will have to wait and see how well the chips perform come November.
I am actually more interested in what AMD has up it's sleeve.
If AMD is unable to compete with Intel's next series of CPU's, we may see the beginning of the end for AMD.
130W TDP. hmmm. i was expecting something lower for the 2.66 GHz version.
My e6750 @ 3.6Ghz is fast enough, but now I want to buy a new cpu...which one tho?
I think we already saw/see the beginning of the end for AMD's processors.
Also..
Nehalem is a considerable increase in almost everything. The benches we saw a month ago have the Core i7 940@ 2.93 GHz pretty much destroying the present quad extreme processor @3.0+ GHZ the only exception was gaming. Let’s keep in mind these benches were performed on an unreleased x58 MB with incomplete drivers.
I bet the Core i7 940@ 2.93 GHz cripples everything on the market today - Stock VS. Stock. Lets not even talk about the extreme i7 which is going to be silly….
20% performance gains are incredible!
Imagine if everyone had a car that did 0-100mph in 10 seconds then the next model was 0-100mph in 8 seconds… that would be amazing! The world would rejoice … but in reality the next car would be 0-100 in 9.7 seconds… 3% gain.
Imagine if Ferrari came to the track tomorrow with a car that is 20% faster then the competition….
Agreed my E8400 @ 3.6 should be good for quite some time being as most app and games only use one core anyway.
e6750 @ 3.2 should last me until the next iteration of Intel's processors or until my money burns through the floor.
130w TDP at a whopping 3.2ghz(as reached by the last 4 generation of Intel CPUs)? What happened to the staggeringly low voltage and amazingly fast(too fast to discuss exactly how fast) clock speeds from the previous feel-good hype articles?
Yay price cuts.
130w TDP at a whopping 3.2ghz(as reached by the last 4 generation of Intel CPUs)? What happened to the staggeringly low voltage and amazingly fast(too fast to discuss exactly how fast) clock speeds from the previous feel-good hype articles?
Remember that the fastest C2D at launch was, I believe, the e6600, clocked at 2.4GHz. We're way past that, now, and Core i7 has other draws, such as an integrated memory controller.
On another note, dude, the q6600 is dropping in price again. That is just awesome.
130w TDP at a whopping 3.2ghz(as reached by the last 4 generation of Intel CPUs)? What happened to the staggeringly low voltage and amazingly fast(too fast to discuss exactly how fast) clock speeds from the previous feel-good hype articles?
That 130 watt tdp takes into consideration of the turbo mode overclock, its similar to AMD putting the 9950 BE at 130 watts because of the 200 mhz overclock over 2.6 on the 750 southbridge.
Core i7 920 for $284 seems like a good deal compare to current Q9xxx chips.
Core i7 920 for $284 seems like a good deal compare to current Q9xxx chips.
Not if you already have a good 775 board and good DDR2 RAM =)
The 45nm 6mb L3 Phenom was barely 10% faster than equal clocked current Phenom from review I saw at http://en.hardspell.com/. Assuming AM3 board increase speed by another 10%, it would mean the 45nm Phenom finally beat the Q6xxx series clock for clock for behind Q9xxx.
I am using an Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP with E6400 and 2GB Patriot memory. I think after 2 years of underclock and undervolt, the CPU no longer OC well.
meh, ill still wait for a q9650 price drop... it easily clocks to 3.8-4.0ghz with air... should be yummy, even if core i7 is out
Hmmm what happened to a September release date. But im in no position to complain this new processors look awesome im going for the 2.6ghz one. I'm ready to also hear some news on some of the new X58's like the Foxconn Renaissance.
Go Intel!

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Re: ravenware

I agree (what's up AMD's sleeves). A good smack from AMD should help keep Intel up to our expectations.
core i7 is not a substantial improvement over core 2 processors... its just not, sure in some areas, but in most its not really what it should have been to be the next core 2
From the preview at anand's i7 has a 20-50% improvement, clock-for-clock over Penryn. What have you seen?
It's likely that you'll never hit 130W power consumption at stock.