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Microsoft Making a Windows 7 Compatibility Site

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That is, the site tells you about Windows 7 compatibility.

Curious if some of your older hardware and software will work with Windows 7? The general rule we go by here is that if it works in Windows Vista, then it'll work fine in Windows 7. Even for programs that only work in Windows XP, you'll be able to run them in XP Mode if you've got Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate.

Microsoft hopes to clear everything up with its upcoming Windows 7 Compatibility Center website. Customers and businesses will be able to visit the website to browse a database of products to see which ones do and don't work with Windows 7.

The website is now live, but the database isn't yet complete. Microsoft said that it will launch the site closer to the retail date for Windows 7 on October 22.

"We will have more on this as we get closer to launch, but thousands of products are being populated into the Compatibility Center right now based on confirmed statements of support from partners," Mark Relph, a senior director with Microsoft's Windows Product Strategy Group and leader of its Windows Ecosystem team, said to PCMag. "If you are a customer, you can be confident that we are working with our partners to ensure you find the compatibility status, downloads, and helpful resources for the products you use every day."

The quickest solution to test your system for Windows 7 readiness is to use the upgrade advisor software, but if you're buying new hardware or software, you can check for the Compatible With Windows 7 logo.

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    08nwsula , October 2, 2009 8:57 PM
    I think they would have an easier time making a site of the software NOT compatible with windows 7.
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    jhansonxi , October 2, 2009 8:57 PM
    They must be worried. Where are the customer reports of compatibility? Partners are hardly unbiased and are only going to report enterprise application experiences.
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    XD_dued , October 2, 2009 8:59 PM
    Hmmm...from my experience the windows vista compatibility list was inaccurate...everything works on my vista 64 although it says otherwise...oh well I'm not complaining XD
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    Major7up , October 2, 2009 9:32 PM
    XD_duedHmmm...from my experience the windows vista compatibility list was inaccurate...everything works on my vista 64 although it says otherwise...oh well I'm not complaining XD

    And yet there was a whole fiasco about hardware that was rated Vista capable and was not (though applied to whole pre-built systems more)
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    V8VENOM , October 2, 2009 10:22 PM
    It will be a LONG list of games/applications that do NOT work in Windows 7.

    The first 4 out of 5 games/applications I tried have problems either installing or running after install:

    1. Age of Empires III (no workaround)
    2. DiskKeeper 2008 (forced to upgrade to 2009)
    3. Dawn of War II (patch pending)
    4. 3DMark Vantage 1.0.1 (there is a work around)

    Also, overclockers be aware, on the same system (tri-boot) Windows 7's performance Index would ONLY complete (without rebooting in the middle of my CPU test) when I dial clock speed back from 3.8Ghz to 3.4Ghz and dropped DDR3 rate. Fortunately this is ONLY under Windows 7 64bit. CPU at 3.8Ghz works fine with Vista x64 Performance Index test.

    Hard to say if it's just poor Windows 7 code causing the reboots or a Windows 7 driver -- OS log reports no issues other than the abnormal shutdown so my hunch is a Windows 7 code problem -- usually driver problems will trying something in the OS log.

    As with Vista, you'll get more compatibility if you disable UAC -- so much for Windows 7 being more secure if it works better with UAC disabled.

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    kevinstraight , October 2, 2009 11:50 PM
    Anyone know if XP mode includes support for drivers of older hardware that worked with XP but refused to run under Vista? I've tried virtual PC without luck, so decided on a dual boot system (running XP on a separate partition for the few times I needed certain peripherals/software to work). Would be too good to be true if XP Mode eliminated the need for a dual boot system. Otherwise I'll be dual boot with XP and Win7 now (who needs Vista compatibility GRIN).

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    vaskodogama , October 3, 2009 12:19 AM
    V8VENOMIt will be a LONG list of games/applications that do NOT work in Windows 7.The first 4 out of 5 games/applications I tried have problems either installing or running after install:1. Age of Empires III (no workaround)2. DiskKeeper 2008 (forced to upgrade to 2009)3. Dawn of War II (patch pending)4. 3DMark Vantage 1.0.1 (there is a work around)Also, overclockers be aware, on the same system (tri-boot) Windows 7's performance Index would ONLY complete (without rebooting in the middle of my CPU test) when I dial clock speed back from 3.8Ghz to 3.4Ghz and dropped DDR3 rate. Fortunately this is ONLY under Windows 7 64bit. CPU at 3.8Ghz works fine with Vista x64 Performance Index test.Hard to say if it's just poor Windows 7 code causing the reboots or a Windows 7 driver -- OS log reports no issues other than the abnormal shutdown so my hunch is a Windows 7 code problem -- usually driver problems will trying something in the OS log.As with Vista, you'll get more compatibility if you disable UAC -- so much for Windows 7 being more secure if it works better with UAC disabled.


    I have been using 7 since RC, and no problem yet, and the problem you saying, I had it with Vista, and the cause was bad CODECs, conflict with each other. don't blame Win7 when you bombed it with bloatware and bad softwares ... , not a fanboy, but like 7 alot, from a software engineer perspective.
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    V8VENOM , October 3, 2009 4:27 AM
    CODECs?? I think you're confused. CODEC is for video/audio digital compression, nothing to do with any of the problems I listed for Windows 7. I've never had a CODEC that cause a power down reboot.

    I'm finding Windows 7 to be less compatible than Vista -- proof comes with the Windows Updates -- most of the updates I'm downloading via Windows Updates describes compatibility problems/fixes. Soooo...

    Like I said before, Same poor OS as Vista, only costs more.
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    jj463rd , October 3, 2009 6:02 AM
    Flight Simulator X good to go for 32 and 64 bit that's all I need to know.
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    thenetavenger , October 3, 2009 8:14 AM
    V8VENOMIt will be a LONG list of games/applications that do NOT work in Windows 7.The first 4 out of 5 games/applications I tried have problems either installing or running after install:1. Age of Empires III (no workaround)2. DiskKeeper 2008 (forced to upgrade to 2009)3. Dawn of War II (patch pending)4. 3DMark Vantage 1.0.1 (there is a work around)Also, overclockers be aware, on the same system (tri-boot) Windows 7's performance Index would ONLY complete (without rebooting in the middle of my CPU test) when I dial clock speed back from 3.8Ghz to 3.4Ghz and dropped DDR3 rate. Fortunately this is ONLY under Windows 7 64bit. CPU at 3.8Ghz works fine with Vista x64 Performance Index test.Hard to say if it's just poor Windows 7 code causing the reboots or a Windows 7 driver -- OS log reports no issues other than the abnormal shutdown so my hunch is a Windows 7 code problem -- usually driver problems will trying something in the OS log.As with Vista, you'll get more compatibility if you disable UAC -- so much for Windows 7 being more secure if it works better with UAC disabled.


    Ok, the applications you mention...

    1) Age of Empires III This works fine. My spouse plays it all the time, and it works on several Win7 machines, from the old Laptop to the new desktop running Win7 x64.

    2) Diskkeeper? Since XP, there is little need for a third party defragment utility, and with Vista and Win7 there is even more reasons not to use Diskkeeper.

    In Vista and Win7 if you let the OS defrag utility run (which it does once a week) it processes all prefetch and supercache data so that not only does it defrag the drive and consolidate free space, but then goes on to put files specificaly in the best locations so that when launched the HD can process them faster.

    This is because areas of the HD are faster, so more frequently used and demanding files are put in the faster area of the HD and additionally, files are laid out as the application loads them, so that the HD can just process all the files for a loading application with less seek times.

    Using Diskkeeper is losing the optimization features, because even though it will put files together to help load times, it doesn't truly know what files are loaded in what order and this is where the prefetch and superfetch data gives the OS defrag utility the ability to move things specifically based on your HD and how you use it specifically instead of general optimizations and just putting Application EXE and DLLs next to each other on the HD, when the application may be reading stuff from other parts of the OS and other DLLs and not its own at the same time it is loading the EXE for example.


    3) Dawn of War (No Idea, haven't tested it)
    4) 3DMark Vantage 1.1 - again it works fine, and many sites even use it to test Win7 performance.


    From your additional information, it sounds like you have a flaky hardware issue that may also contribute to the games failing.

    If your overclocked system is running marginally under Vista and you move to Win7, with new drivers, and you start to see failures, you can be assured that either the drivers are not right or your hardware is overclocked to a level that is not as stable as you might have thought.

    For example, when the new Video WDM drivers are doing more with the hardware especially in areas of handing off more to the OS so there is less overhead of the GPU scheduler.

    Win7 also has a new set of optimizations for multi-core/SMP processing, and if you have an i7 CPU, this will make dramatic changes in the HT virtual CPU handling. So sometimes the multi-core CPUs will spike more as the additional core is being used more.

    Just because the OS didn't note a 'driver error' doesn't mean that the code cause the problem is not a driver, it could just mean that it is a low kernel level driver that is causing the problem.

    So you have a couple of things to look at, make sure you system is overclocked so that voltages are right and you are in marginal areas, especially when Win7 is throwing more to additional cores at times, create more peak temps.

    Next you need to look at your mainboard and other hardware, check to see that things are ok, and Vista just isn't pushing it enough to fail.

    Then look at drivers and other things that seem suspect or operations on the system that can create the errors. Video is one area to start, especially when you are having trouble running a game and graphical testing tool that everyone else can run just fine.

    Good Luck...
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    digiex , October 3, 2009 11:06 AM
    In my case, the only wish i have in windows 7 is INCA's Gameguard compatibility, the anti-hacking rootkit that comes with MMORPG games. Some versions are already OK but others still not. I don't know why MMORPG developers still use the piece of useless software which is by the way make the PC's vulnerable to attacks.

    Well I can't get rid of these MMORPG games since as a PC Shop Owner majority of my customers prefer MMORPG.
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    randomizer , October 3, 2009 1:43 PM
    V8VENOMAlso, overclockers be aware, on the same system (tri-boot) Windows 7's performance Index would ONLY complete (without rebooting in the middle of my CPU test) when I dial clock speed back from 3.8Ghz to 3.4Ghz and dropped DDR3 rate.

    I suppose your fail at overclocking is representative of everyone else's abilities?
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    Anonymous , October 3, 2009 2:25 PM
    I AM RUNNING A ASUS p35 board and none of the monitoring software works--tried reinstalling win 7 the other day again but now gone back to xp--too many issues and everything works fine again--hardware not dogy at all here--also finding the resolution on my 22" monitor not as good in win7 --tried everything but image on alot of site come up 4x3 and again no problem in xp--my video card is nvidia 8800gt latest drivers for everything--would have loved win 7 but for me its crap --asus is not helping with drivers for win 7 either for older hardware--have tried both 32 and 64 bit---starting to hear quite a few people here having issues too
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    sturmgrenadier , October 3, 2009 2:26 PM
    I use windows 7 professional from my MSDNAA account, and almost every game -new or old- play without any problem..
    one with problem is Ceville, the in-game cinematics doesn't show, but after searching in forums, the solution is to play it on window mode..problem solved.

    And i notice very good improvement on resource handling compared to vista, windows 7 use very small amount of RAM, and everything feels faster than when i use vista
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    WINTERLORD , October 3, 2009 9:09 PM
    i am curios about this windows xp mode. gonna make a thread about it in the forums but, if this xp since its a full version of XP does this mean that if you had ultimate addition, that your computer could be taken over and or affected by both windows xp viruses, and windows 7/vista viruses?
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    buwish , October 4, 2009 4:39 AM
    They should especially concentrate on drivers and hardware components, as that has been the only issue I have noticed in my testing, my printers especially.
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    JohnnyLucky , October 4, 2009 1:14 PM
    I hope any compatibility issues are solved fairly quickly. I was thinking of upgrading from XP to Win7. Right now I'm thinking I may have to upgrade some of the applications I use. That would also mean it would cost more than just the price of Win7.
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    urlsen , October 4, 2009 3:01 PM
    Ive been running win7 and there are no problems that i have run into...
    just rigth click and trubbleshoot compatbility to a earlier version...i installed diablo 2 and dungeon keeper 1+2 on wil 7 in win95 mode win98 mode xp vista u name it and uptill now it hs all worked..

    using not rc but developer version 64 bit
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    jaragon13 , October 4, 2009 4:10 PM
    __-_-_-__no. it will not work. microsoft wants you to buy windows 7 and to upgrade your hardware. this is, if you don't upgrade they will sell less copies. you will have to stick to dual boot. Though keep in mind that most vista x64 drivers can be easly moded to work with xp x64. it doesn't mean they will do it of course they won't.win 7 compatiblity list will be even shorter.it would be very very easy to microsoft to build an OS that supported old drivers etc.and ofc linux is not the alternative because m$ has the monopoly.when ranting about anti microsoft EU laws keep that in mind.

    Maybe you should learn how software and hardware works before writing a crappy post like this.
    winterlordi am curios about this windows xp mode. gonna make a thread about it in the forums but, if this xp since its a full version of XP does this mean that if you had ultimate addition, that your computer could be taken over and or affected by both windows xp viruses, and windows 7/vista viruses?

    No.
    Also, take in mind memory protection is stronger
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    rambo117 , October 4, 2009 4:19 PM
    im very happy with Windows 7, plan to buy it once my RC expires
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