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Mozilla Plans to Drop Version Numbers from Firefox

by - source: Bugzilla

Perhaps it is just me, but does Mozilla have odd ideas these days?

The latest twist from the Firefox maker: hide the version numbers of the browser.

Product manager Asa Dotzler argues that there is no need for a version number anymore. What counts is the fact that a user knows when the browser checked for an update and that the browser is up to date. No need to confuse him with any additional information.

I can't say that I agree with Dotzler and would say that dropping the version number from the About window would confuse Firefox users, especially during a rapid release cycle. So, if you are waiting for a certain feature that is supposed to arrive in a certain version how would you know that your browser is already supporting it - since those automated updates don't always become available right away for everybody? Dotzler says you can simply consult the hidden about:support window, but I find this to be rather silly. Especially developers and IT manager need to know the version number and making it more difficult for them to find the version numbers is an unnecessary move.

There was no information which version of Firefox will be dropping the version number first.

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soccerdocks 08/16/2011 6:48 AM
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This is WAY worse than their marketing scheme of quickly updating version numbers. I agree that they needed to move to a faster update schedule. But call it FF4.1 not FF5.

Anonymous 08/16/2011 6:56 AM
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firefox has jumped the shark

Anonymous 08/16/2011 7:15 AM
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Glad I don't use Firefox any more. They've lost the plot.

_Cubase_ 08/16/2011 7:16 AM
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I can imagine their creative meetings:

Guy 1: "Let's rapidly update version numbers!"
Guy 2: "That may be hard to keep track of"
Guy 1: "Good point, we'll remove them all together"
Guy 2: "Then how are people going to know what version they are using?"
Guy 1: "We will name them after Animals!"
Guy 2: "Like Apple?"
Guy 1: "That's a fruit, dumbass!"
Guy 2: *facepalm*

killerclick 08/16/2011 8:05 AM
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Wow, Firefox just keeps screwing up. Hide the status bar, hide cache options, hide version numbers, what next - the address bar? Idiots.

robertito 08/16/2011 8:12 AM
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Mozilla's really been screwin' the pooch as of late.

bison88 08/16/2011 8:25 AM
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This is just as if not even more stupid than doing the Google Chrome thing adding a version number every 6 weeks. Goddamn, what the hell is wrong with you people? Who are you hiring as product manager because they need fired.

Vampyrbyte 08/16/2011 8:34 AM
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dogofwars 08/16/2011 8:39 AM
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A big FU from a tech support guy... FU Firefox you just make ours life a lot more harder dumb ass!!!

TunaSoda 08/16/2011 8:44 AM
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Pyroflea 08/16/2011 8:58 AM
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Big deal. It makes sense for numerous releases. You can just go off of the date of the release anyways. Won't be any different.

Benihana 08/16/2011 9:00 AM
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They could just give a release date for certain features instead of a specific version. Of course, this will mean that they'd have to keep things running on schedule. But it could work!

memadmax 08/16/2011 9:13 AM
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Sigh. I'll give them one more "version" before it's time to dump them. If they don't bring er' down to a 50 meg foot print like I get with IE then so sad panda....

walter87 08/16/2011 9:20 AM
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Firefox 3.6 is still running smooth for me.
As an added measure incase I never need to reinstall my OS, I'm keeping a backup of the v3.6 install file.

I got a feeling Mozila will eventualy remove it all together and force people into using their latest...if thats the case I guess Chrome or IE would be my new browser.

Djhg2000 08/16/2011 9:33 AM
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These days Firefox is harder to keep track of than a salmon in a river...

delazaren 08/16/2011 9:35 AM
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randomizer 08/16/2011 9:42 AM
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killerclick :
what next - the address bar? Idiots.


I thought that idea was Google's?

walter87 :
I got a feeling Mozila will eventualy remove it all together and force people into using their latest...if thats the case I guess Chrome or IE would be my new browser.



Er... Chrome already does this, and has for a long time.

Personally I don't think this change is necessary. Most people don't really know what version they're running until they get hit with one of those first run web pages that tell them all the latest gimmicks with their newly updated browser.

enterco 08/16/2011 10:38 AM
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If removal of the version numbers help using extensions and no longer breaks compatibility, it a good idea. Otherwise, not.

cheesemon 08/16/2011 10:50 AM
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Personally, I'm all for "Super Firefox Turbo"

malphas 08/16/2011 12:56 PM
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I'm still perfectly happy with how Firefox behaves, the GUI changes (after I've tweaked them heavily), etc. What's most annoying is this insecure design to keep up with Chrome by using artificially large version number jumps, which would otherwise just be routine point releases, and now hiding them from the about dialogue is just asinine.

jescott418 08/16/2011 1:00 PM
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This reminds me of AMD when it was losing the battle with Intel over CPU speeds. So it decided to change its model numbers to not reflect at what speed they ran at. I think it was a desperate move for AMD to cover up its failings in developing its CPU's and I think Firefox is doing the same.

cornandbeans 08/16/2011 1:09 PM
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WTF!? I have been using Firefox for 3 years but I have been disappointed recently. Version number jump (they should use 4.0.5 for minimal update then 4.1, 4.2) and now, dropping them? I don't get it.

fullforce 08/16/2011 1:32 PM
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i couldnt agree more with this

custodian-1 08/16/2011 1:45 PM
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You know there will be a version number somewhere in the code probably on the first line someone will write a routine to tell you that

dickcheney 08/16/2011 2:14 PM
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killerclick :
Wow, Firefox just keeps screwing up. Hide the status bar, hide cache options, hide version numbers, what next - the address bar? Idiots.



They should hide their current management...

darkxuy 08/16/2011 2:49 PM
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This is so stupid.

I have an idea for them, make the version number after the compilation date (e.g. Firefox 11.08.16), tada! no more version worries.

dspider 08/16/2011 2:49 PM
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I think it would be interesting.

Changelog would read:

2011-05-26
2011-06-18
2011-08-01
2011-10-07

etc.

And the Help -> About screen would tell you which update you have by date of release (2011-08-01).

cookoy 08/16/2011 3:16 PM
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if it ain't broke don't fix it. i guess they have nothing better to do.

sunflier 08/16/2011 3:21 PM
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I disagree with Mo. In the IT world version numbers are important. When you run into issues with versions its good to know what level you're at should you need to roll it back. Versions allow you to compare specific versions on more than one computer, for example, to see if same issue(s) exist on another computer with same 'version'. Also, I write queries for inventories and uninstall packages that are based on version numbers.

Just my 2cents.

wiyosaya 08/16/2011 3:37 PM
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Personally, I doubt that this will make a lot of difference. However, if they are smart, there will still be some means of identifying what "version" the currently installed software is.

I mean, think of it. They still need some means of versioning, otherwise, their own update program would never correctly identify whether or not an update is needed. Even a date / time stamp would work.

jabliese 08/16/2011 3:43 PM
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Yea, great idea, take away the one reason people ever look at the About screen. Better idea, rename About to Version, and leave it alone. You get to drop the About screen, and I get to keep my one click Version access.


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